Understanding Non-qualified Stock Option Tax Withholding via Carta - Help Needed!
Hey tax friends, I'm in the process of exercising some NSOs through Carta (the cap table management software my company uses) and I'm a bit confused about the withholding situation. Carta is requiring me to pay the withholding taxes based on the spread between my strike price and the 409A valuation, which I understand is standard. The thing is, the withholding amount seems really high - they're withholding about 37% total (22% federal, 7% state, 6.2% for Social Security, and 1.45% for Medicare). I was only expecting around 25-30% total withholding. For context, I'm exercising options on about 15,000 shares at a $1.50 strike price, and our current 409A is at $4.25, so there's a decent spread there. The total withholding comes to around $15,300, which feels like a lot. Is this normal? Do I have any say in how much is withheld? I'm trying to minimize my upfront costs since I'm already paying the strike price, but I also don't want to underpay and get hit with penalties next April. Thanks for any insights!
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Mateo Rodriguez
This is actually pretty standard for NSO exercises through platforms like Carta. When you exercise non-qualified stock options, the spread (difference between your strike price and current fair market value) is considered ordinary income at the time of exercise. The withholding percentages you're seeing align with supplemental wage withholding requirements. The 22% federal is the flat rate for supplemental wages under $1 million, and the state rate depends on your location. The FICA taxes (Social Security at 6.2% and Medicare at 1.45%) are also required regardless of your income level. Unfortunately, you generally don't have much flexibility with withholding on NSO exercises through automated platforms like Carta. The company has to comply with withholding requirements since this is considered compensation income. One thing to keep in mind is that while this withholding feels high now, it's actually helping you avoid a potentially large tax bill next April. The taxes are due on this income regardless, so having them withheld now is often beneficial.
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Nia Thompson
•Thanks for the detailed explanation! So there's really no way around this withholding requirement? I was hoping I could maybe adjust it down a bit since I have other tax deductions this year that might offset some of this income. Also, do you know if I'll get any kind of tax document from Carta or my employer showing this withholding amount? Just want to make sure I can account for it when filing next year.
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Mateo Rodriguez
•With automated platforms like Carta, the withholding rates are typically fixed to ensure compliance with IRS requirements. Companies are required to withhold at these rates for supplemental wages, so there's limited flexibility. Your other tax deductions will still benefit you when you file your return, but they don't affect the upfront withholding. You'll receive a W-2 from your employer that will include both the income from the spread (added to your regular wages) and the taxes withheld. This will all be reflected when you file your taxes, and if the withholding was more than your actual tax liability, you'll get the difference back as a refund.
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Aisha Abdullah
After struggling with almost the exact same NSO withholding issue on Carta last year, I found a super helpful tool at https://taxr.ai that saved me so much stress. I wasn't sure if the withholding calculations were correct, and I was worried about getting hit with penalties. The tool let me upload my Carta exercise documents and it analyzed everything - explained exactly how the NSO withholding should work, confirmed whether my withholding was calculated correctly, and even showed me how this would impact my overall tax situation. It gave me way more clarity than my company's benefits team could provide. What I really liked is that it explained the tax implications for both the exercise and potential future sale, so I could actually make an informed decision about whether exercising now made sense tax-wise.
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Ethan Wilson
•Does the tool actually connect to Carta directly or do you have to download stuff first? I'm in the middle of deciding whether to exercise about 10,000 NSOs and the tax implications are making my head spin.
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NeonNova
•I'm skeptical about tools like this. How does it actually know your specific tax situation? Like can it factor in other income and deductions you have for the year? Because my concern is that while the 37% might be the standard withholding rate, my actual tax burden could be different.
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Aisha Abdullah
•You don't need to connect it directly to Carta - you just download your exercise documents from Carta (like the confirmation PDF that shows your strike price, FMV, and withholding calculations) and upload those. Takes like 30 seconds and the tool does the rest. It'll show you all the calculations and explain how they work. For your specific tax situation, that's actually one of the best features. You can input other income sources, deductions, and credits you expect for the year, and it will calculate your projected tax burden with and without the NSO exercise. This helped me realize that exercising in December vs January made a huge difference in my case because of income thresholds.
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Ethan Wilson
Just wanted to follow up - I actually tried that taxr.ai site after seeing it mentioned here and it was exactly what I needed! I uploaded my pending NSO exercise documents from Carta and it showed me that exercising half this year and half in January would keep me in a lower tax bracket both years. The tool also confirmed that the 37% withholding rate was actually correct for my situation (sadly), but it helped me understand that about $3,200 of that withholding would likely come back as a refund based on my overall tax situation. The report even included a section about the potential AMT implications if I were dealing with ISOs instead of NSOs, which was good to know for future reference. Definitely recommend for anyone dealing with stock option tax questions!
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Yuki Tanaka
If you're struggling with questions about your NSO withholding and need to speak with someone at the IRS directly, I highly recommend using https://claimyr.com to get through to an agent quickly. I spent DAYS trying to get someone on the phone at the IRS to clarify some questions about my options taxation last year and kept getting disconnected. With Claimyr, I got through to an IRS agent in about 20 minutes instead of waiting for hours or getting disconnected. They have this smart system that navigates the IRS phone tree and holds your place in line, then calls you when an agent is about to pick up. You can see how it works in this video: https://youtu.be/_kiP6q8DX5c The IRS agent was actually super helpful in explaining how supplemental wage withholding works for NSOs and confirmed that what Carta was doing was correct. They also explained some nuances about state withholding that I hadn't considered.
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Carmen Diaz
•How exactly does this work though? Is it just automating the hold process or do they have some special connection to the IRS? Seems weird that a service could get you through faster than calling directly.
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NeonNova
•This sounds like BS honestly. The IRS phone system is a disaster and no service is going to magically get you through. Plus even if you do reach someone, most agents give different answers to the same question anyway. I've heard horror stories about people getting wrong information from IRS agents.
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Yuki Tanaka
•It doesn't have a special connection to the IRS - it uses smart technology to navigate the phone tree and waits on hold for you. The IRS phone system actually does occasionally have openings, but most people give up after being on hold for 30+ minutes. Claimyr keeps your place in line and only calls you when an agent is about to pick up. Regarding inconsistent information - that's a fair concern. I've experienced that too. What helped in my case was that I asked very specific questions about supplemental wage withholding regulations for NSOs rather than asking for general tax advice. I also made sure to get the agent's ID number and take notes about what they told me, which provides some protection if you're ever questioned about following their guidance.
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NeonNova
I was totally skeptical about Claimyr as I mentioned above, but I'm coming back to say I was WRONG. After struggling to get answers about my NSO withholding situation for weeks, I decided to try it as a last resort. Got connected to an IRS agent in about 25 minutes and they confirmed something really important for my situation: since I'm leaving my company right after exercising my NSOs, the withholding through Carta is actually my ONLY chance to cover the tax liability through withholding. If I had tried to reduce the withholding like I originally wanted, I would have been hit with underpayment penalties. The agent also explained how the supplemental wage withholding appears on W-2s, which helped me understand what to look for when I get my tax documents. Saved me from making a potentially expensive mistake and from spending hours more researching contradictory information online.
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Andre Laurent
Something nobody's mentioned yet - depending on how long you hold the shares after exercising those NSOs, the tax treatment for when you eventually sell will be different. If you hold for more than a year after exercise, any additional gain (beyond what you already paid taxes on at exercise) will be long-term capital gains rather than ordinary income. So while the immediate withholding feels painful, the potential tax savings on future growth might make it worthwhile if you believe the company value will increase significantly. Just something to consider in your overall strategy!
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Nia Thompson
•That's a great point! I do plan to hold these for the long term since I believe in the company's future. So to confirm - I'm paying ordinary income tax now on the spread between strike price and current 409A, but if I hold for >1 year, any appreciation above the current 409A would be taxed at long-term capital gains rates?
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Andre Laurent
•Exactly right! You're paying ordinary income tax now on the spread between your $1.50 strike price and the $4.25 current 409A valuation. Your new cost basis becomes $4.25 per share. If you hold for more than a year after exercise and then sell when the shares are worth, say, $10, you'd pay long-term capital gains rates on the $5.75 difference ($10 - $4.25), which is significantly lower than ordinary income rates for most people. Depending on your income bracket, that could mean paying 15% instead of 22-37% on the future growth.
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Emily Jackson
I went through this last year with Carta too. One tip: check with your company's finance team about the possibility of doing a "same-day sale" to cover the withholding if cash flow is an issue. Some companies allow this even if they're not public yet. Basically, you exercise your options and immediately sell just enough shares back to the company (or to other investors if there's a secondary market) to cover the withholding amount. This way you don't have to come up with the extra cash for taxes out of pocket. Not all companies offer this, but it doesn't hurt to ask!
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Liam Mendez
•That's actually a really smart approach if available. Do you know if doing a same-day sale changes the tax treatment at all? Like does it affect the holding period for the remaining shares?
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Danielle Mays
The 37% withholding rate you're seeing is actually quite standard for NSO exercises, and unfortunately there's not much flexibility with automated platforms like Carta. However, I'd recommend running some quick calculations to see if the timing of your exercise could be optimized. Since you're exercising 15,000 shares with a $2.75 spread ($4.25 - $1.50), that's $41,250 in ordinary income that will be added to your W-2. Depending on your other income for the year, this could potentially push you into a higher tax bracket. You might want to consider splitting the exercise across tax years if that makes sense for your situation. For example, exercising 7,500 shares in December and 7,500 in January could potentially keep you in a lower bracket for both years, reducing your overall tax burden even though the withholding rates stay the same. Also, make sure you understand your company's exercise window - some companies have expiration dates on options that might limit your flexibility on timing. But if you have the flexibility, it's worth running the numbers on different scenarios before committing to the full exercise amount.
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Amara Nwosu
•This is really helpful advice about splitting the exercise across tax years! I hadn't considered that approach. My current salary is around $85k, so adding $41,250 from the NSO exercise would definitely bump me up significantly. Do you know if there are any tools or calculators that can help model different exercise timing scenarios? I'd love to see the actual tax impact of doing 7,500 shares this year vs next year before making the decision. My options don't expire until 2027, so I do have some flexibility with timing. Also, when you mention staying in a "lower bracket" - are you referring to just the marginal tax rate, or are there other thresholds I should be worried about? I know there are income limits for certain deductions and credits but I'm not sure what specific levels to watch out for.
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Luca Conti
•Great question about the tax modeling tools! For calculating different NSO exercise timing scenarios, I'd highly recommend checking out the tax projection calculators on TurboTax or FreeTaxUSA - they let you input different income amounts and show you the marginal vs effective tax rates for each scenario. With your $85k salary, adding the full $41,250 NSO income would put you at $126,250 total, which pushes you well into the 22% federal bracket. If you split it, you'd keep each year closer to the $95-100k range, potentially saving on both federal and state taxes. Beyond marginal rates, you should definitely watch out for: - Traditional IRA deduction phase-outs (start around $73k for 2024 if you have a 401k at work) - Student loan interest deduction phase-outs (complete phase-out at $85k single/$175k married) - Child tax credit phase-outs (if applicable) - FICA taxes on the NSO income (that 6.2% Social Security tax applies up to ~$160k in wages) The timing strategy could save you several thousand in total taxes, especially if it keeps you below some of those phase-out thresholds in both years rather than blowing past them in one year.
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Diego Fernández
One thing I haven't seen mentioned yet is the potential impact of state taxes, which can vary significantly depending on where you live. While the federal withholding rates are pretty standardized, state withholding can range from 0% (if you're in a state like Texas or Florida with no income tax) to over 10% in high-tax states like California or New York. The 7% state withholding you mentioned suggests you're in a moderate-tax state, but it's worth double-checking that this aligns with your actual state tax liability. Some states have different withholding requirements for supplemental wages like NSO exercises compared to regular payroll. Also, if you're planning to move states between now and when you file your taxes, that could complicate things. The income is generally taxed by the state where you were a resident when you exercised the options, not necessarily where you file your return. This is another factor that might influence your timing decision if you're considering splitting the exercise across tax years. I'd recommend checking your state's Department of Revenue website for specific guidance on stock option taxation, or consulting with a tax professional who's familiar with your state's rules if the amounts are significant enough to warrant the expense.
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