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Alexander Evans

Reconciling NSOs and Payroll Taxes: Carta vs Rippling Mismatch

I've been thrown into the deep end with a tax situation at the startup where I work. I'm handling HR for our 15-person team, and I've got this mess with NSO (Non-qualified Stock Options) tax withholding that I have no idea how to fix. Basically, there's a mismatch between what Carta collected when an employee exercised their NSOs and what Rippling (our payroll system) says they actually owe in taxes. The employee exercised about $28,000 worth of options last quarter, and Carta withheld roughly $8,400 for taxes. But when I look in Rippling, it's saying we should have withheld around $11,200. Neither system is giving me clear guidance on how to reconcile this $2,800 difference or which amount is actually correct. I've reached out to both Carta and Rippling support multiple times, but I'm getting the runaround. Carta says it's a payroll issue, Rippling says it's an equity platform issue. Meanwhile, I'm worried about potential tax implications for both the employee and our company. Our finance person is tied up with fundraising, and we don't have an in-house tax expert. Any advice on how to resolve this NSO tax withholding discrepancy would be incredibly helpful!

This is a common issue with NSOs (Non-qualified Stock Options) because they're treated as regular income for tax purposes, but the calculation can differ between systems. Here's what's likely happening: Carta is probably calculating the withholding based on a supplemental wage rate (22% federal + state taxes), while Rippling might be calculating based on the employee's actual tax bracket combined with Social Security, Medicare, and state taxes, which could easily reach the higher amount you're seeing. To fix this: First, confirm the exact exercise details - what was the strike price, fair market value at exercise, and how many shares? Check if Carta withheld for all required taxes (federal income tax, Social Security, Medicare, state, and local if applicable). Next, have a call with both vendors with you on the line simultaneously. Don't let them pass you back and forth. The key question is whether Carta remitted the taxes they withheld to the appropriate agencies or if they expect your payroll system to do that. If Carta already remitted the taxes, you'll need to record this in Rippling manually. If not, you'll need to collect the additional withholding from the employee through payroll adjustments over the next few pay periods (there are limits to how much you can withhold per period). The good news is this is fixable! Just document everything carefully for your records.

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Thanks for this explanation, it makes sense but I'm still confused about one thing - if Carta already took out the lower amount from the employee's proceeds and remitted those taxes, do we have to somehow get the additional difference from the employee's regular paycheck? Won't they be upset about this unexpected reduction in their take-home pay? Also, is there a specific IRS form I should be looking at to verify the correct withholding amount?

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If Carta already remitted the lower tax amount, you'll need to work with the employee to collect the additional withholding. It's best to be transparent with them - explain the situation and offer to spread the additional withholding across several paychecks to minimize the impact. Most employees understand that tax withholding needs to be accurate to avoid penalties later. For verification, you should look at Form W-2 reporting requirements for equity compensation. The spread between the exercise price and fair market value of NSOs is reported as compensation income in Box A on the W-2. A helpful resource is IRS Publication 525, which covers taxable and nontaxable income, including equity compensation.

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Maya Lewis

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Isaac Wright

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That sounds really helpful, but I'm wondering how complicated it is to use? I barely understand these tax concepts as it is. Do you need to have some tax background to make sense of their analysis?

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Lucy Taylor

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I'm skeptical about these kinds of services. Our company had a similar issue with NSOs and it turned out we needed to hire a specialized accountant anyway. Did you find that the reports from taxr.ai were accepted by your payroll company? Our payroll provider refused to make adjustments without CPA documentation.

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Maya Lewis

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It's actually designed for non-tax people. The interface walks you through uploading your documents and then gives you a plain-language explanation. Each finding is linked to the specific tax regulation and explained in simple terms. I had zero tax background and could understand everything. The reports were definitely accepted by our payroll provider. They include citations to specific IRS regulations and tax codes that govern NSO withholding requirements. Our payroll company (ADP) actually commented on how thorough the documentation was. The key is that it breaks down exactly which taxes were missing - in our case, it was the Additional Medicare Tax that kicks in at higher income levels.

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Lucy Taylor

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Just wanted to follow up on my skeptical comment earlier. I decided to give taxr.ai a try with our NSO reconciliation problem. I was honestly surprised at how helpful it was! The system identified that our equity platform was using outdated state tax rates and wasn't accounting for local taxes in certain jurisdictions. The report broke down exactly which tax components were incorrect and provided references to the current rates. I was able to forward this to both our equity administrator and payroll team, and they resolved the issue within a day after weeks of going back and forth. It even flagged that we should be using a different supplemental wage withholding method based on our company size and payroll frequency. This was something neither our payroll provider nor equity platform had mentioned, but it made a significant difference in the calculation.

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Connor Murphy

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KhalilStar

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How does this actually work? I thought it was impossible to get through to the IRS these days. Is this just a way to jump the phone queue or something?

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This sounds too good to be true. I've literally spent DAYS trying to reach someone at the IRS about our equity comp tax issues. If this actually works, I'll be shocked. How much does it cost? There's got to be a catch...

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Connor Murphy

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I have to eat my words about being skeptical of Claimyr. After posting my doubtful comment yesterday, I decided to try it for our ongoing NSO withholding issue. Within 20 minutes I was talking to an IRS agent who specialized in business employment taxes. The agent explained that the difference I was seeing likely came from how Medicare and Social Security taxes were being calculated. Apparently, our equity platform was only withholding income tax at the supplemental rate but not the FICA taxes, which explained the exact discrepancy amount. She also flagged that we needed to be careful about proper reporting on Form 941 (quarterly tax return) and made sure I understood how to reconcile the equity compensation with our regular payroll reporting. This saved me from making a serious mistake on our quarterly filings which could have triggered an audit. Definitely worth it for the peace of mind and actually solving the problem instead of guessing!

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Kaiya Rivera

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Quick practical tip from someone who went through this exact NSO/payroll tax nightmare: Check if your Carta settings are configured to withhold for FICA taxes (Social Security and Medicare)! Ours weren't, and that was causing about a $3k difference per employee exercise. Sometimes Carta is only set up to withhold federal and state income taxes at the supplemental rates, but not the 7.65% for FICA. Rippling is probably calculating correctly with all required taxes. If that's your issue, you'll need to: 1. Update your Carta settings for future exercises 2. Work with your payroll to true-up the missing FICA for past exercises 3. Make sure your W-2 reporting is correct The absolute worst approach is ignoring it - trust me, we did that and ended up with a painful tax notice six months later.

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This is super helpful but I'm not sure where to find those settings in Carta. Is it under the admin section or somewhere else? Our CFO set it up originally but he's left the company.

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Kaiya Rivera

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Look under Admin > Company Settings > Tax Withholding in Carta. There should be checkboxes for different tax types. If FICA isn't checked, that's likely your issue. The setting might be called "Social Security and Medicare" rather than FICA specifically. If you can't access this area, reach out to your Carta account manager - they can verify your withholding settings and help update them. While you're at it, make sure state and local tax withholding settings are also correctly configured for your employee locations.

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Noah Irving

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Has anyone dealt with the situation where the employee already filed their taxes before we discovered the withholding was incorrect? One of our employees exercised NSOs in December, we underwithheld, and she's already filed her return using the incorrect W-2 we provided. Do we need to issue a corrected W-2 or is there another way to handle this?

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Yes, you should issue a W-2c (corrected W-2) as soon as possible. The employee will then need to file an amended tax return (Form 1040-X) to correct their reported income and tax liability. Make sure to clearly communicate with the employee about what happened and why they're receiving a corrected form. It's important to explain that the original withholding was insufficient and they may owe additional taxes. Some companies offer to cover the cost of preparing the amended return since it was the company's error.

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This is exactly the kind of situation that makes startup HR so challenging! I went through something very similar last year with our NSO exercises. One thing that helped me was creating a simple spreadsheet to track all the moving pieces - employee name, exercise date, number of shares, strike price, FMV at exercise, total spread (taxable income), and then columns for each tax component (federal income, state, Social Security, Medicare, any local taxes). This made it much easier to see where the discrepancy was coming from. In our case, we discovered that Carta was using a flat 22% supplemental wage rate for federal withholding, but some of our higher-earning employees should have been subject to the 37% rate since their total annual income exceeded certain thresholds when combined with the NSO income. Also double-check if your state has any special rules for equity compensation - California, for example, has some quirky requirements that can throw off calculations. The key is getting both platforms to show you their exact calculation methodology line by line. Don't let them just give you totals - demand the breakdown. Once you have that, the discrepancy usually becomes obvious. Good luck! This stuff is unnecessarily complex but definitely solvable with some persistence.

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This spreadsheet approach is brilliant! I'm definitely going to set this up. Quick question - when you mention the 37% rate for higher earners, is that something that should be automatically calculated based on their YTD earnings, or do we need to manually flag high earners for different withholding rates? I'm worried we might have other employees in similar situations that we haven't caught yet. Also, regarding the California quirks you mentioned - do you happen to remember what those specific requirements were? We have several employees there and I want to make sure we're not missing anything state-specific.

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