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Isabella Santos

Understanding 2022 Tax Owed + Making 2023 Form 1040-ES Quarterly Estimated Payments

I'm totally confused after doing my taxes through TaxAct this year. It's showing me these quarterly estimated payment vouchers (Form 1040-ES) for 2025 and I have no idea what this means. I have my regular 9-5 job, but last year I picked up some side hustle work as a content creator and got a 1099-NEC from the company I worked with. This is my first time getting income outside my regular paycheck, so I'm completely lost. The software says I owe around $3,200 for 2024 (which I can thankfully pay in installments), but now it's also telling me I need to make payments throughout 2025 for NEXT year's taxes? I always thought taxes were just taken out of paychecks automatically - I didn't realize people had to pay them in advance on their own. How accurate are these estimated tax calculations? I'm assuming the software is using what I entered to figure this out, but I'm not convinced. So do I have to pay both what I owe for 2024 AND these estimated taxes with the 1040-ES vouchers throughout 2025? This is way more complicated than I expected when I started this side gig!

StarStrider

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The estimated tax system can definitely be confusing when you first encounter it! What you're seeing is completely normal, especially when you have 1099 income without tax withholding. When you receive W-2 income from your employer, they withhold taxes throughout the year. But for 1099 work, no taxes are withheld - the government still wants their money throughout the year though, not just at tax time. The 1040-ES vouchers are for making quarterly estimated tax payments for your 2025 taxes. The IRS requires you to pay taxes as you earn income (called "pay-as-you-go") rather than just once a year. If you don't make these quarterly payments when you have significant 1099 income, you might face underpayment penalties. The estimates are based on your 2024 income, so if you expect your 2025 freelance income to be similar, they should be fairly accurate. If your income changes significantly (up or down), you can adjust your payments accordingly. And yes, unfortunately you do need to pay both your 2024 tax bill AND make the estimated payments for 2025. It's like catching up on last year while staying current on this year.

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Ravi Gupta

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Thanks for the explanation! Quick question - if I'm planning to do less freelance work this year than last year, can I just pay less than what the vouchers say? And how do I know if I'm paying enough to avoid penalties?

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StarStrider

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You can definitely adjust your estimated payments if you expect to earn less this year. The key is meeting one of the "safe harbor" provisions to avoid penalties. Generally, you need to pay either 90% of your current year tax or 100% of your prior year tax (110% if your AGI was over $150,000). If you're sure your income will be lower, you can recalculate your estimated payments. Just keep track of your actual income throughout the year and adjust as needed. You can use the worksheets in the 1040-ES instructions to do this, or most tax software has calculators to help.

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Omar Hassan

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Does it actually help calculate what business expenses you can deduct? I'm doing photography on the side and have a ton of equipment purchases but have no idea what qualifies or how to track everything.

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I'm skeptical - doesn't TurboTax already do this? Why would I need another service? Is there some advantage I'm missing here?

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Omar Hassan

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Diego Vargas

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CosmicCruiser

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Wait, so this service actually gets you through to the IRS? How does that even work? The IRS phone system is basically designed to make you give up.

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Yeah right. Nobody gets through to the IRS these days. I've tried calling dozens of times this year about a missing refund and always get disconnected after waiting for hours. This sounds like a scam tbh.

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Diego Vargas

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I have to come back and apologize for my skepticism about Claimyr. After posting my comment, I decided to try it as a last resort since I was still getting nowhere with the IRS about my missing refund. I expected it to be a waste of time, but no joke - I got a call back with an actual IRS agent in 22 minutes. The agent found that my refund had been flagged for review because of a mismatch between my 1099-NEC and what the issuer reported. She unflagged it right there on the phone and my refund was processed within a week. While I had her on the line, I also asked about those estimated tax payments that confused me, and she explained exactly how to calculate them properly based on my specific situation. I've spent MONTHS trying to get this resolved on my own. I can't believe I wasted so much time when this solution existed.

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Sean Doyle

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One thing nobody's mentioned yet - you can avoid the whole estimated tax payment system if you increase your withholding at your W-2 job. Just update your W-4 with your employer to take out additional money each paycheck. I found this way easier than remembering to make quarterly payments. You can use the IRS withholding calculator to figure out exactly how much extra to withhold based on your expected 1099 income.

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Zara Rashid

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Does increasing W-2 withholding actually prevent underpayment penalties the same way estimated payments do? I thought those were treated differently by the IRS.

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Sean Doyle

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Yes, it absolutely works! The IRS doesn't care how you pay as long as enough tax is withheld throughout the year. W-2 withholding is actually treated even better than estimated payments because withholding is considered to have been paid evenly throughout the year even if it wasn't. For example, if you realize in December that you're going to owe more, you could have extra withheld from your last few paychecks. The IRS treats that withholding as if it had been paid evenly across all quarters, which can help you avoid underpayment penalties even if your first few quarters were underpaid. Many people find this easier than keeping track of quarterly payment deadlines. Just make sure you're withholding enough total to meet your safe harbor requirement (either 90% of current year tax or 100% of prior year tax).

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Luca Romano

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Has anyone found the self-employment tax to be the most shocking part of this? When I first started freelancing I budgeted for income tax but completely forgot about the additional 15.3% for SE tax. Ouch.

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Nia Jackson

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Try setting aside 30% of everything you make from 1099 work right when you get paid. I have a separate savings account just for taxes. That way you never "feel" like that money is yours to spend, and you're not scrambling at tax time.

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