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Keisha Johnson

I'm confused on 1040ES forms for quarterly estimated tax payments

I'm a freelancer in the US and I think I need to be filing quarterly taxes on top of my regular annual return. I'm really confused about the whole 1040ES situation. First question - do I actually have to file these quarterly taxes? I heard there's some $1000 cutoff point, and last year (2024) I only paid about $1100 in self-employment taxes and basically nothing in income tax (was under the standard deduction). My freelance business is definitely growing though, so I have zero clue how much I might owe this year. Also, why can't I just pay everything once a year with my regular tax return? Doing all these forms 4 times a year feels like such a waste of time. If I do have to file these quarterly estimated taxes, I noticed the IRS has that Free File thing, and I made an account with TaxSlayer through that program. Does anyone know if TaxSlayer handles the 1040ES forms? Thanks for any help!

Paolo Rizzo

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You've got some common questions about estimated taxes! The requirement to pay quarterly estimated taxes is based on your expected tax liability. The rule is that you need to pay quarterly if you expect to owe $1,000 or more in taxes when you file your return. Since you mentioned paying about $1,100 in SE taxes last year and your business is growing, you'll likely need to make quarterly estimated payments for 2025. These aren't really "filings" though - you're just making payments using the 1040-ES vouchers. You technically can pay it all at once with your annual return, but you might face underpayment penalties if you owe over the threshold. The IRS wants their money throughout the year, similar to how employees have taxes withheld from each paycheck. As for TaxSlayer, yes, they do support calculating your 1040-ES payments. Most tax software will help you determine the appropriate quarterly amount based on your previous year's income or your estimated current year income.

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QuantumQuest

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Thanks for explaining! So is the $1000 threshold for total taxes or just federal income tax? Like if my SE tax is $900 and income tax is $200, do I need to do quarterly payments?

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Paolo Rizzo

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The $1,000 threshold refers to your total federal tax liability, so that would include both income tax and self-employment tax combined. In your example, if you expect to owe $900 in SE tax plus $200 in income tax, that's a total of $1,100 - which would be over the threshold, so you would need to make estimated quarterly payments. The quarterly system is designed to have you pay taxes as you earn income, rather than all at once. This helps with cash flow for both you and the government.

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Amina Sy

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Does it actually connect to your bank accounts or do you have to manually input all your income and expenses? I'm worried about giving access to my financial accounts.

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How does it compare to just using the worksheet that comes with the 1040-ES form? Is it really worth paying for another service?

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Amina Sy

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I was skeptical about taxr.ai at first (mentioned above), but decided to try it when my freelance income doubled unexpectedly. The regular 1040-ES worksheet wanted me to make massive quarterly payments based on my projected annual income, even though most of my earnings were front-loaded in the first half of the year. Using https://taxr.ai actually saved me from making unnecessarily large payments in Q3 and Q4. The system recalculated based on my actual income pattern and adjusted my required payments. Ended up having much better cash flow while still avoiding underpayment penalties. Their quarterly reminder emails were helpful too - I used to always forget the payment deadlines!

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GalaxyGlider

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Just a practical tip from someone who's been freelancing for years: If your income is growing but unpredictable, you can avoid penalties by paying at least 100% of your previous year's tax liability (or 110% if your AGI was over $150,000). This is called the "safe harbor" rule. For me, I set up automatic quarterly payments through IRS Direct Pay for the minimum safe harbor amount, then just settle up any difference when I file my annual return. Saves me from having to recalculate every quarter.

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Thanks for this tip! So if I understand correctly, even if I end up making way more this year, as long as I pay at least what I owed last year (split into quarterly payments), I won't get hit with underpayment penalties?

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Exactly! As long as you pay at least 100% of your previous year's total tax (divided into equal quarterly payments), you won't face underpayment penalties - even if your actual tax liability ends up being much higher. Just remember that if your previous year's AGI was over $150,000, the safe harbor amount increases to 110% of last year's tax. It's one of the simplest ways to handle estimated taxes when your income is growing or unpredictable.

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Has anyone tried using the IRS's own tax withholding estimator for this? I've been wondering if it works for self-employment income too or just W-2 jobs?

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I tried using it but it's really designed for W-2 employees. It doesn't handle the complexities of self-employment well, especially if you have irregular income throughout the year.

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