Need help with Form 1040-ES for quarterly tax payments after starting a new job
I really need some guidance with Form 1040-ES for quarterly estimated taxes. My spouse and I already filed our 2023 taxes back in January, but then we unexpectedly got some freelance income for a few months before I started a full-time position. I'm confused about how to handle this situation now. Do we just fill out the 1040-ES form and send in a payment? I'm not sure how to account for my new full-time job and the estimated taxes that will be withheld from my paychecks. We don't anticipate getting more freelance income, but it's not completely off the table either. I'm worried about messing this up and getting penalties. Do I need to amend our already accepted 2023 tax return, or can I just fill out the 1040-ES worksheet and make a payment? Any help would be greatly appreciated!
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Amina Sy
You don't need to amend your 2023 return for income you're earning in 2024. The 1040-ES is specifically for making estimated tax payments on income that doesn't have taxes withheld. Here's how to handle your situation: Complete the 1040-ES worksheet using your best estimate of your total 2024 income (including both the freelance work you've already done and your expected income from your new job). The worksheet will help you calculate your estimated tax liability for the year. When completing the worksheet, be sure to include the expected withholding from your new full-time job. This will reduce the amount you need to pay in estimated taxes. If your withholding from the new job will cover your tax liability (including the taxes on your freelance income), you might not need to make estimated payments at all.
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QuantumQuest
•Thanks for the explanation! So just to make sure I understand - I should include both the freelance income we've already received AND my projected salary from the new job on the 1040-ES worksheet? And then the worksheet will tell me if I need to make quarterly payments based on whether my withholding will cover everything? Also, what if I miscalculate? My new employer's withholding might be different than what I estimate.
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Amina Sy
•Yes, you should include both the freelance income you've already received and your projected salary from the new job on the 1040-ES worksheet. This gives you a complete picture of your expected annual income, and the worksheet will help determine if your withholding will cover everything or if you need to make additional quarterly payments. Don't worry too much about miscalculations. You can adjust your estimated payments for future quarters if you find your withholding is different than expected. The IRS generally won't penalize you if you pay at least 90% of your current year tax or 100% of your previous year's tax (110% if your AGI was over $150,000), whichever is smaller.
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Oliver Fischer
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Natasha Petrova
•That sounds helpful, but how exactly does it work with existing tax returns? I already filed my taxes for last year, but now I'm making money from a side gig selling crafts online. Does it pull info from last year's return somehow?
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Javier Morales
•I'm skeptical of these tax tools. How accurate is it really? I got burned last year by a different tax app that miscalculated my quarterly payments and I ended up with a penalty. Does this actually handle the weird situation where you have both W-2 and 1099 income properly?
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Oliver Fischer
•It connects securely to your IRS account to pull your most recent tax return data, then lets you add your new income sources. It uses that as a starting point but focuses on your current year situation. You can upload any 1099s you've received so far, plus enter details about your new W-2 job. The accuracy has been spot-on in my experience. What makes it different is that it specifically handles mixed income situations like yours with both W-2 and 1099 income. It calculates the appropriate tax withholding from your W-2 job and factors that in when determining your quarterly estimated payments. I was in the exact same situation with craft fair income plus a regular job.
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Javier Morales
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Emma Davis
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GalaxyGlider
•Wait, how does this actually work? Do they have some special connection to the IRS or something? I've literally spent HOURS on hold before giving up.
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Javier Morales
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Emma Davis
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Javier Morales
Okay I have to update everyone - I used Claimyr yesterday and got through to an IRS agent in 37 minutes after spending 3+ hours trying on my own last week. The agent confirmed exactly what I needed to do with my 1040-ES forms and mixed income situation. She explained that I should complete the worksheet with both income sources, but factor in my projected withholding from my W-2 job. The key thing she pointed out (which I hadn't realized) was that I could adjust my W-4 with my employer to increase withholding to cover my freelance income instead of making separate quarterly payments. This could be simpler depending on your situation. Absolutely worth getting the professional guidance directly from the IRS!
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Malik Robinson
Don't forget about the safe harbor provisions for estimated taxes! If you pay 100% of last year's tax liability (or 110% if your AGI was over $150,000), you won't face penalties even if you end up owing more when you file. This might be the easiest approach in your situation since you already filed your 2023 taxes. Just take your total tax from that return, divide by 4, and make those payments. Then you don't have to worry about calculating your new job's withholding perfectly.
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QuantumQuest
•That sounds way simpler than what I was trying to do! So I could just look at line 24 (total tax) on my 2023 Form 1040, divide by 4, and pay that for each quarter? Would this still work even though I've already missed the first quarter payment deadline for April 15th?
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Malik Robinson
•Yes, exactly - just look at line 24 on your 2023 Form 1040, divide by 4, and that's your quarterly payment amount to avoid penalties under the safe harbor rule. Super straightforward! Regarding the missed first quarter payment - you should make it as soon as possible even though it's late. You might face a small penalty for the late Q1 payment, but it's calculated only on the amount you were short and only for the number of days it was late. The most important thing is to make your remaining payments on time (June 15, September 15, and January 15) to prevent additional penalties.
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Isabella Silva
Has anyone tried adjusting their W-4 at their job to have extra withholding instead of dealing with quarterly payments? Seems like it would be easier than remembering these quarterly deadlines.
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Ravi Choudhury
•I did this last year and it worked great! Just fill out a new W-4 with your employer and add the additional amount you want withheld on Line 4(c). I calculated roughly how much extra I needed withheld per paycheck to cover my side gig income. So much easier than dealing with quarterly payments, and it spreads the tax burden throughout the year.
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Sean Kelly
I was in almost the exact same situation last year! One thing that really helped me was using the IRS withholding calculator on their website (irs.gov/individuals/tax-withholding-estimator) to figure out the best approach. You can input your freelance income, your new job's expected salary, and it will tell you whether to adjust your W-4 withholding or make estimated payments. In my case, I found that increasing my withholding at my new job by about $200 per paycheck was much simpler than dealing with quarterly payments. The key thing to remember is that the IRS doesn't care HOW you pay your taxes throughout the year - whether it's through withholding or estimated payments - they just want to receive the money. So you have flexibility in choosing the method that works best for your situation.
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