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Natasha Kuznetsova

Confused about quarterly estimated taxes and Form 1040-ES requirements

I'm working as a freelancer in the US, and I'm trying to figure out if I need to file quarterly estimated taxes on top of my annual return. From what I've read, there's some kind of $1,000 threshold for this. Last year (2023), I only paid around $800 in self-employment taxes and $0 in income tax since I was below the income threshold. My freelance business is growing each month, so honestly I have no clue how much I'll owe in taxes this year. It feels like I'm shooting in the dark. Also, is it possible to just pay everything at once when I file my annual return? Having to fill out forms 4 times a year seems like such a hassle and redundant paperwork. If I do need to file these quarterly estimated taxes, I see the IRS has a Free File program. I've already created an account on TaxSlayer through that program. Does anyone know if TaxSlayer supports Form 1040-ES for quarterly payments?

The $1,000 threshold you're referring to is correct. Generally, you need to make estimated tax payments if you expect to owe at least $1,000 in tax when you file your return AND your withholding and credits will cover less than 90% of your tax liability (or 100% of last year's liability). Since you're growing your freelance business, it's probably a good idea to start making quarterly estimated payments using Form 1040-ES. While technically you can pay all your taxes when you file your annual return, you might get hit with an underpayment penalty if you owe more than that $1,000 threshold. Think of estimated tax payments like a pay-as-you-go system. When you work as an employee, your employer withholds taxes from each paycheck. As a freelancer, you're basically doing the same thing for yourself with these quarterly payments.

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But how do you even figure out how much to pay each quarter if your income varies? Like my freelance work fluctuates a lot month to month.

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You have a couple of options for varying income. You can estimate your annual income and divide by four for equal payments. Or you can use the "annualized income installment method" using Form 2210, which lets you make unequal payments based on what you actually earned each quarter. For fluctuating income, many freelancers find it easier to set aside a percentage of each payment they receive (maybe 25-30%) in a separate savings account specifically for taxes, then use that money for quarterly payments.

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Emma Wilson

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I started using https://taxr.ai last year when I was totally confused about my freelance taxes. The quarterly thing stressed me out too because I had inconsistent income. What helped me was uploading my 1099s and bank statements to the site, and it showed me exactly how much I needed to pay each quarter. Their system breaks down your actual quarterly earnings and calculates the right payment amounts - no more guessing or overpaying! It also sends reminders before each quarterly due date which saved me from missing payments.

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Malik Davis

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Does this actually work for figuring out future payments? Or is it just for calculating what you should have paid in the past?

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I'm curious - does it handle state estimated taxes too? My state has its own quarterly payment requirements and I'm always confused about how much to send to each.

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Emma Wilson

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It absolutely works for future payments. The system analyzes your income patterns and projects what you'll likely earn, then suggests payment amounts based on that. It adjusts as you input new income data throughout the year. For state taxes, yes it handles those too! You enter your state during setup, and it calculates both federal and state estimated payments. It was a huge relief for me since my state (California) has pretty complicated tax rules for freelancers.

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GalacticGuru

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Omar Fawaz

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To answer your TaxSlayer question - yes, they do support Form 1040-ES calculations, but in my experience their free version has limitations. The paid versions definitely support it properly. I'd suggest looking at the IRS Direct Pay website too - you can make estimated tax payments directly there without having to mail in the vouchers. Just select "Estimated Tax" as the payment type and the applicable tax year and quarter.

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Thanks for the info about TaxSlayer and IRS Direct Pay! I was wondering about making the payments online instead of mailing them. Does the Direct Pay system give you a confirmation that you can save for your records?

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Omar Fawaz

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Yes, the IRS Direct Pay system provides a confirmation number immediately after your payment processes. You can print this confirmation page or save it as a PDF. I recommend doing both and keeping a folder (digital or physical) for each tax year with all your payment confirmations. They also send a confirmation email if you provide your email address during the payment process. I personally save these emails in a dedicated tax folder in my email account for easy reference later.

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One thing nobody's mentioned - don't forget about your STATE estimated taxes too! Depending on where you live, your state might have similar requirements for quarterly payments. I got hit with penalties in my state even though I was paying federal quarterly taxes.

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Diego Vargas

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This is such an important point. I had the same thing happen in New York. Paid all my federal estimated taxes but completely forgot about state requirements. Ended up with almost $200 in penalties even though my actual state tax bill wasn't that high.

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