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Mikayla Brown

For self-employed folks, is filing 1040-ES required when making quarterly estimated tax payments?

Hey everyone! I'm in my second year of freelancing and I'm still confused about the quarterly tax payment process. I've been getting mixed messages about the 1040-ES form. Some sources say you need to file it electronically through tax software, others claim you have to mail physical forms, and some suggest you don't even need to file it at all. I'm specifically wondering if it's mandatory to submit a 1040-ES form when making estimated tax payments? I don't own a printer and I'm trying to avoid paying extra for tax prep services just for quarterly payments. Is it possible to just pay my quarterly estimates directly to the IRS online through their payment system without submitting the actual 1040-ES paperwork? The IRS website seems vague on this and I've found conflicting advice on different forums. Any fellow freelancers who've figured this out already? Thanks in advance!

Sean Matthews

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The 1040-ES isn't actually something you "file" - it's a worksheet to help you calculate your estimated tax payments. The form includes payment vouchers if you choose to mail in your payments, but you don't need to submit the worksheet itself to the IRS. You have several options for making quarterly estimated payments without dealing with the physical 1040-ES form: 1) Use IRS Direct Pay (irs.gov/payments/direct-pay) 2) Use EFTPS (Electronic Federal Tax Payment System) 3) Pay through the IRS2Go app 4) Pay with a credit/debit card through an approved payment processor When paying online, you'll just select "estimated tax" as the payment type and the appropriate tax year and quarter. The system will generate a confirmation number - save that as proof of payment. No need to mail anything or use a paid service just for your quarterly payments.

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Ali Anderson

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So if I use Direct Pay, I don't need to submit anything else? What about the state estimated taxes? Can I pay those online too or is that process different?

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Sean Matthews

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That's right - with Direct Pay, you just make the payment and keep your confirmation number. No additional forms needed for federal estimated taxes. State taxes are handled separately through your state's tax agency. Most states have their own online payment systems similar to the federal one. You'll need to check your specific state's department of revenue website for their process, but most allow online payments without requiring paper forms.

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Zadie Patel

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I struggled with this exact issue last year! Used to waste money on TurboTax quarterly until I discovered https://taxr.ai - it helped me understand I don't actually need to "file" the 1040-ES at all. The tool analyzed my payment history and explained that the form is just a worksheet to calculate what you owe, not something you submit to the IRS. The site has a really helpful section specifically for self-employed people that breaks down the estimated tax process step by step. I just use IRS Direct Pay now and save the confirmation emails as proof. Been doing this for 3 quarters and haven't had any issues. The system even keeps track of your payment history so you can reference it later.

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This sounds helpful but I'm confused about one thing - if I'm not submitting the 1040-ES form itself, how does the IRS know which quarter I'm paying for? Do I select that somewhere during the online payment process?

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I've heard about these tax assistance tools but I'm always skeptical. Does it actually look at your specific situation or just provide general advice that I could find on the IRS website for free?

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Zadie Patel

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When you make a payment through IRS Direct Pay, you'll select the payment type as "estimated tax" and then choose the specific tax period (quarter) you're paying for. The system prompts you to select the quarter during the payment process, so the IRS knows exactly which payment period you're covering. Regarding your question about the tool - it's not just generic advice. You can upload your past tax documents and payment records, and it provides personalized analysis based on your specific situation. It caught that I had been overpaying my quarterly estimates by about $430 per quarter based on my actual income patterns, which was something I hadn't realized just from reading the IRS website.

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Emma Morales

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Wait, you're saying there's a service that actually gets you through to the IRS? How does that even work? Last time I tried calling I gave up after being on hold for over an hour.

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Lucas Parker

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Emma Morales

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Lucas Parker

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I'm eating crow here... I tried Claimyr after posting my skeptical comment. Got through to the IRS in 27 minutes after trying unsuccessfully for THREE DAYS on my own. The agent confirmed I've been doing my quarterly payments correctly - just using Direct Pay without submitting any forms. She also helped me set up an online account so I can view my payment history anytime. For those wondering about the original question: The agent specifically told me the 1040-ES is NOT something you're required to submit. It's just a worksheet and optional payment voucher. If you pay online, there's no form to file at all. This has been driving me crazy for years so I'm glad to have official confirmation!

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Donna Cline

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One thing nobody mentioned yet - make sure you're paying enough throughout the year! The IRS expects you to pay at least 90% of this year's taxes or 100% of last year's tax liability (110% if your AGI was over $150,000). I learned this the hard way and got hit with an underpayment penalty my first year freelancing. Now I always pay at least 100% of my previous year's tax divided into four payments to be safe. You can always get a refund if you overpay, but those penalties are annoying.

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Quick question - for the 100% of last year's tax liability rule, does that include both income tax and self-employment tax? Or just income tax?

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Donna Cline

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It includes both income tax and self-employment tax - basically the total tax shown on your previous year's return. Look at your last Form 1040, line 24 (Total Tax) from last year, and aim to pay at least that amount divided into four payments. This is the safest approach to avoid penalties, especially if your income varies or is increasing. If your income is decreasing, you might want to do the actual calculations using the 1040-ES worksheet to avoid overpaying too much.

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Does anyone know if the payment deadlines are always April 15, June 15, Sept 15, and Jan 15? Or do they change every year? I missed the second quarter deadline last year because I thought it would be July 15 (three months after April 15).

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Dylan Fisher

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Those are the standard due dates, but they can change if they fall on weekends or holidays. The weird part is the uneven timing - the April payment covers 3 months, but the June payment only covers 2 months, then Sept is 3 months, and Jan is 4 months. Makes no sense to me!

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Edwards Hugo

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After 5 years of self-employment, here's my system: I just calculate my estimated quarterly payment using the 1040-ES worksheet once at the beginning of the year. Then I set calendar reminders for each payment deadline and use IRS Direct Pay. I keep a simple spreadsheet with payment confirmation numbers and amounts. Never had any issues with this approach, and I've never needed to submit any actual forms for my quarterly payments. Just make sure you select the correct tax year and quarter when making payments online!

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Thanks for all the helpful responses everyone! As someone who just started freelancing this year, this thread has been incredibly valuable. I was definitely overthinking the 1040-ES requirement - it sounds like I can just use the IRS Direct Pay system without worrying about submitting any forms. One follow-up question: If I'm using the safe harbor method (paying 100% of last year's tax liability), do I still need to use the 1040-ES worksheet to calculate my payments, or can I just take last year's total tax and divide by 4? My tax situation is pretty straightforward - just freelance income with standard business expenses. Also, does anyone know if there's a minimum income threshold where estimated payments become required? I've seen conflicting info about whether you need to pay if you'll owe less than $1,000.

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Axel Bourke

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Welcome to freelancing! For the safe harbor method, you can absolutely just take last year's total tax (line 24 from your 1040) and divide by 4 - no need to use the 1040-ES worksheet if you're keeping it simple. That's exactly what I do. You're right about the $1,000 threshold - if you'll owe less than $1,000 when you file your return (after withholding and credits), you're not required to make estimated payments. But since freelance income can be unpredictable, many of us pay anyway to avoid surprises. The safe harbor approach is great for your first year since you have a baseline from your W-2 job. Just remember that if your freelance income grows significantly, you might want to switch to calculating based on current year estimates to avoid a big refund situation.

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Emily Jackson

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Great question! I went through this same confusion when I started freelancing. The 1040-ES form is just a worksheet - you don't actually "file" it with the IRS. It's designed to help you calculate how much to pay each quarter. Here's what I learned: You can absolutely make your quarterly payments online without any paperwork. I use IRS Direct Pay (irs.gov/payments/direct-pay) - it's free, secure, and you just need your SSN and bank account info. When you make the payment, you'll select "Form 1040ES" as the form type and choose which quarter you're paying for. The key is keeping good records. Save your confirmation numbers and consider setting up an online account with the IRS so you can track your payment history. I keep a simple note in my phone with the confirmation numbers and dates - that's all the "filing" you really need for quarterly payments. Don't stress about not having a printer or avoiding tax prep services for this. The online payment system is actually much more convenient than mailing vouchers anyway!

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