Is paying all 1040-ES Payment Vouchers mandatory for estimated tax payments?
So I just went through filing my 2023 taxes using TurboTax, and something new popped up this year. The software generated four 1040-ES Payment Vouchers for me, each asking for $1,150 per quarter for 2024. This is totally new territory for me. Based on my projections, my additional income for 2024 probably won't result in more than about $2,500 in extra taxes. Do I actually need to pay all these vouchers? What's the deal if I just ignore them or only pay some? I'm confused about whether these are suggestions or requirements from the IRS. Anyone dealt with these quarterly estimated payments before and can share some wisdom?
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Chloe Martin
The 1040-ES vouchers aren't mandatory in the sense that you MUST pay exactly those amounts on those exact dates. They're the system's estimate based on your previous year's taxes. The actual rule is that you need to pay enough in withholding/estimated taxes throughout the year to avoid an underpayment penalty. You can avoid this penalty if: 1) You owe less than $1,000 in tax when you file your return, OR 2) You've paid at least 90% of the tax for the current year, OR 3) You've paid 100% of the tax shown on your return for the previous year (110% if your AGI was over $150,000) In your case, if you're certain your additional tax will only be around $2,500, you could potentially adjust your payments. But be careful with the calculation - if you underpay, you might face penalties.
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Diego Rojas
•So if I'm reading this right, since the OP estimates they'll owe about $2,500, they should be fine just making smaller payments than what TurboTax suggested? Also, does having regular withholding from a job count toward this requirement?
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Chloe Martin
•Yes, if they're confident about the $2,500 estimate, they could potentially make smaller payments than suggested, as long as they meet one of those safe harbor provisions I mentioned. Yes, regular withholding from a W-2 job absolutely counts toward this requirement. In fact, if you have a W-2 job, you could increase your withholding there instead of making separate estimated payments. The IRS doesn't care how you pay as long as you meet the requirements - they just want their money throughout the year rather than all at the end.
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Anastasia Sokolov
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StarSeeker
•How accurate was it for you? I'm always skeptical of these tax tools because I've been burned before with "estimates" that ended up being way off.
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Sean O'Donnell
•Does it actually look at your withholding throughout the year or just make an initial calculation? Like if my income changes mid-year can it adjust the estimates?
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Anastasia Sokolov
•It was surprisingly accurate compared to other tools I've used. I actually double-checked its calculations with a spreadsheet I made, and it was within $50 of my own calculations, which gave me confidence in the results. Yes, it does consider your withholding patterns throughout the year. You can update your information anytime your income changes, and it will recalculate your remaining estimated payments based on what's already been withheld and what you expect for the rest of the year. I had to do this when I got an unexpected bonus in August, and it adjusted my September and January payments accordingly.
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Sean O'Donnell
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Zara Ahmed
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Luca Esposito
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Nia Thompson
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Zara Ahmed
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Nia Thompson
Alright, I have to eat my words about Claimyr from my earlier comment. After continuing to fail getting through to the IRS myself about my estimated payment questions, I reluctantly tried the service. It actually worked. Got connected to an IRS representative in about 37 minutes, which is basically a miracle. The agent walked me through exactly how the safe harbor rules apply to my situation and confirmed I only needed to pay about 60% of what my software had calculated for my vouchers. They also explained I could make uneven payments throughout the year as long as I paid enough by each quarterly deadline to cover the income I'd earned up to that point. This was completely different from what I thought - I always assumed the payments had to be equal.
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Mateo Rodriguez
One thing nobody's mentioned yet - you can also just increase your withholding at your regular job instead of making separate estimated payments. If you're only looking at potentially owing $2,500 more, you could just adjust your W-4 to withhold an extra $50 per week and you'd cover it that way. This is actually easier for most people than dealing with the quarterly payments, and the IRS treats withholding as if it happened evenly throughout the year, even if you increase it later in the year.
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GalaxyGuardian
•Does this really work? I thought estimated payments had to be made quarterly or you'd get hit with penalties regardless of your W-2 withholding.
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Mateo Rodriguez
•Yes, it absolutely works. The IRS doesn't distinguish between money withheld from your paychecks and estimated payments you send in - it's all considered tax paid throughout the year. The only difference is that withholding is treated as if it occurred evenly throughout the year, even if you increase it in December. Estimated payments are credited when you actually make them. This makes withholding more flexible, especially if you realize late in the year that you might owe more tax.
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Aisha Abdullah
Has anyone else noticed that TurboTax ALWAYS seems to overestimate these voucher amounts? Last year it told me to pay $4k in quarterly payments but I ended up only owing like $900 total when I filed. Felt like I gave the gov an interest-free loan for nothing!
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Ethan Wilson
•Same experience here. I think they do it to be ultra-conservative so nobody can blame them if you end up owing penalties. I started just ignoring their vouchers and calculating my own estimates based on the 100% of prior year tax rule.
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Dmitry Popov
I went through this exact same confusion last year! TurboTax generated vouchers for me totaling over $3,000, but when I actually calculated what I needed based on the safe harbor rules, it was only about $800. The key thing to understand is that those vouchers are just TurboTax's conservative estimate - they're not official IRS requirements. The software tends to overestimate because it's trying to make sure you don't get hit with penalties, but it often doesn't properly account for your existing withholding situation. Since you mentioned your additional tax will likely be around $2,500, I'd suggest calculating what you actually need to pay based on the safe harbor rules others mentioned. If you already have a W-2 job with withholding, you might not need to make estimated payments at all, or at least much smaller ones than what TurboTax suggested. I ended up getting a huge refund because I followed TurboTax's voucher amounts blindly. This year I'm being much more strategic about it.
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Eva St. Cyr
•This is really helpful to hear from someone who went through the same situation! I'm curious - when you calculated your actual safe harbor requirement, did you use the 100% of prior year tax rule or the 90% of current year rule? And how did you factor in your existing W-2 withholding? I'm trying to figure out the best approach since I also have regular withholding from my day job that might already cover most of what I need.
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Liam Fitzgerald
•I used the 100% of prior year tax rule since it was the most straightforward for me to calculate. For the W-2 withholding part, I looked at my last paystub from the previous year to see how much total federal tax was withheld, then estimated what would be withheld for the current year based on my expected salary. The calculation was basically: (Prior year total tax) - (Expected current year W-2 withholding) = Amount I need to cover with estimated payments. In my case, my W-2 withholding was already covering about 85% of my prior year tax liability, so I only needed to make up the difference with quarterly payments. That's why the actual amount was so much lower than what TurboTax suggested - the software didn't properly account for how much I was already having withheld from my regular job.
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Natasha Kuznetsova
Just to add another perspective as someone who's been through the estimated payment confusion multiple times - the 1040-ES vouchers are essentially TurboTax's "worst case scenario" calculation to make sure you don't get penalized. Here's what I wish someone had told me when I first encountered this: Start by figuring out if you even need to make estimated payments at all. If you have a regular W-2 job and your withholding from that job covers at least 90% of this year's expected tax liability (or 100% of last year's), you might not need the quarterly payments. For your situation with an estimated $2,500 in additional tax, check your current withholding rate from your main job. You might find that increasing your W-4 withholding slightly is much simpler than dealing with quarterly vouchers. Also, keep in mind that the IRS safe harbor rules are designed to be flexible. You don't have to pay exactly $1,150 per quarter - you just need to make sure you're meeting the minimum requirements to avoid penalties. Many people successfully pay unequal amounts throughout the year based on when they actually earn the extra income.
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Amara Okafor
•This is exactly the kind of practical advice I needed to hear! I think I've been overthinking this whole thing. You're right that I should start by checking if I even need estimated payments at all. I do have a W-2 job, so I'll look at my current withholding situation first. The idea of just adjusting my W-4 instead of dealing with quarterly payments sounds much more manageable. Thanks for breaking it down in such a straightforward way - it's reassuring to know the safe harbor rules are designed to be flexible rather than the rigid system I was imagining.
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