Self-employment income threshold for tax liability: How much can I make before paying taxes?
So I'm in a bit of a jam trying to figure out my tax situation. Last year I made about $6,400 doing odd jobs for people in my neighborhood - mostly handyman stuff, lawn care, and some dog walking. I'm not running a legit business or anything, just picking up cash here and there. I'm working on my taxes now and filling out a Schedule C, but I'm getting conflicting advice from different people. When I got to the part about making quarterly estimated tax payments, I froze because I have no idea if I need to pay self-employment taxes on this amount. One friend who does taxes on the side told me I don't need to pay self-employment tax because I made under $7,000. But then my cousin who runs his own business said I absolutely do have to pay it regardless of how little I made. I had basically zero expenses - I used my own tools that I already owned, didn't drive anywhere since everything was walking distance, and didn't have any business costs. Just straight income from neighborhood gigs. Can someone clear this up for me? Do I need to pay self-employment taxes on $6,400, and if so, what percentage would I be looking at? And should I be setting up quarterly payments for next year?
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Kirsuktow DarkBlade
Yes, you do need to pay self-employment taxes on your $6,400 income. The confusion might be coming from regular income tax vs. self-employment tax. For regular income tax, you don't owe federal income taxes until you earn above the standard deduction (which is $13,850 for single filers in 2024). But self-employment tax is different - it kicks in when you have $400 or more in net self-employment income. The self-employment tax rate is 15.3% (12.4% for Social Security and 2.9% for Medicare). You should report this income on Schedule C, and then the self-employment tax will be calculated on Schedule SE. Since you had minimal expenses, most of that $6,400 will be subject to the self-employment tax. As for quarterly estimated payments, generally you should make them if you expect to owe at least $1,000 in taxes for the year. Based on your income level, you might be close to that threshold, so it's probably a good idea to set them up.
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Abigail bergen
•Wait so if I make less than the standard deduction but more than $400 self-employed, I still have to pay the 15.3% on everything over $400? That seems so high! Does that mean I'd owe like $900 on my $6400?? Also do you know if there's a way to avoid the quarterly payments and just pay it all when filing?
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Kirsuktow DarkBlade
•You're right that you'd pay the 15.3% on your net earnings from self-employment, which in your case sounds like almost the full $6,400 since you had minimal expenses. So yes, that would be around $980 in self-employment tax. Regarding quarterly payments, you technically can pay it all when filing, but you might face an underpayment penalty if you owe more than $1,000 at tax time. The quarterly payments are designed to match how employees pay taxes throughout the year through withholding. If you're concerned about managing these payments, there are some safe harbor rules that might help - like if you pay at least 90% of your current year tax or 100% of your prior year tax through withholding or estimated payments.
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Ahooker-Equator
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Anderson Prospero
•Does it handle just self-employment stuff or could it help with my W2 job plus side gig situation? I've got both and always mess something up.
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Tyrone Hill
•Seems suspicious tbh. How much does it cost? Most of these tax "helpers" end up charging as much as an actual accountant once you get to the end.
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Ahooker-Equator
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Tyrone Hill
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Toot-n-Mighty
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Abigail bergen
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Lena Kowalski
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DeShawn Washington
Just want to add that in addition to federal self-employment tax, don't forget to check if your state has income tax requirements for self-employment income too. Some states have different thresholds than the federal $400 limit. I'm in Illinois and got surprised by this last year!
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Sienna Gomez
•Thanks for bringing that up! I'm in Texas so I think we don't have state income tax, but that's definitely something I should double check. Do you know if there are any city or local taxes I might need to worry about for self-employment? I've heard some places have those too.
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DeShawn Washington
•Texas doesn't have state income tax, so you're fortunate there! However, some cities or counties might have local business taxes or registration requirements, even for small operations like yours. It's not common in most areas of Texas, but worth checking with your county clerk's office. For most casual side gigs under $10k, you're usually just dealing with the federal self-employment tax. The bigger concern would be if your self-employment grows and you start making more substantial income - then you might need to consider things like business licenses or permits depending on the type of work.
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Mei-Ling Chen
I am in exact same boat making about $5500 last year doing lawn care. i just filed my taxes n paid the self-employment tax (came out to like $840 ish). the $400 threshold thing is right from what I understand. Also heads up Make SURE u keep better records this year if ur gunna keep doing this! I got hardly any receipts for my gas/equipment n couldn't deduct much. Lesson learned lol.
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Sofía Rodríguez
•Pro tip: get an app that tracks mileage and expenses specifically for gig work. I use one that lets me take pics of receipts as I get them and categorizes everything. Saved me a ton when filing because I had everything organized. I'm not super detail oriented so this helps me not lose track.
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Mei Zhang
Just to add some clarity since there's been a lot of back and forth - the $400 threshold is indeed correct for self-employment tax. This is completely separate from regular income tax thresholds. Here's what you're looking at with your $6,400: - Self-employment tax: 15.3% on net earnings = roughly $980 - Regular income tax: $0 (since you're under the standard deduction) For quarterly payments, the general rule is you need to make them if you expect to owe $1,000+ in total tax for the year. Since your SE tax alone puts you close to that, you should probably set them up for next year. One thing others haven't mentioned - you can deduct half of your self-employment tax (about $490) as an "above-the-line" deduction when calculating your adjusted gross income. It's not huge, but it helps offset some of the bite. Also, even though you said you had minimal expenses, don't forget things like: - Portion of cell phone bill if you used it for work - Any tools or supplies you purchased specifically for jobs - Cleaning supplies for your equipment - Even small stuff adds up and reduces your net SE income Keep better records going forward - it really makes a difference come tax time!
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