What qualifies as self-employment income for tax purposes?
Hey everyone, I'm freaking out a bit because I have no idea what counts as self-employment income for taxes. I started doing some side gigs this year (dog walking, occasional website design, and selling stuff I make on Etsy) but I'm not sure if I need to report all of this or how to categorize it. My friend said something about a Schedule C and paying self-employment taxes if I make over $400? But then someone else told me the Etsy stuff might be considered a hobby and not a business? I made about $8,700 total from all these activities combined. Do I need to pay self-employment tax on everything? And how do I even figure out what expenses I can deduct? I've never done anything but a simple tax return before so I'm totally lost here!
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Zainab Ismail
What you're describing is definitely self-employment income! The IRS considers income from any activity you do for profit (without being an employee) as self-employment income. All those activities - dog walking, web design, and Etsy sales - count if you're doing them to make money rather than just as a hobby. The $400 threshold your friend mentioned is correct - if you make more than $400 in net self-employment income, you need to report it and pay self-employment taxes (which cover Social Security and Medicare). With $8,700 in income, you'll definitely need to file a Schedule C. For your expenses, you can deduct ordinary and necessary costs directly related to your business. For dog walking, that might include mileage driving to clients, leashes, treats, etc. For web design, software subscriptions, computer equipment (partially), internet (partially). For Etsy, materials costs, shipping supplies, Etsy fees, etc.
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Connor O'Neill
•Does having a business license matter for any of this? I do similar stuff but haven't registered anything officially. Also, how do you figure out what percentage of home internet and phone to deduct if you use them for both business and personal?
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Zainab Ismail
•Having a business license is more about local requirements than federal taxes. You can still be considered self-employed for tax purposes even without formal registration. The IRS cares about the nature of the activity, not whether you have local permits. For internet and phone expenses, you need to calculate a reasonable percentage based on business use. Keep a log for a few weeks to establish a pattern - track how many hours you use these services for business versus personal use. If you use your internet 40% for business, you can deduct 40% of the cost. Just be ready to justify your calculation if asked.
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Yara Nassar
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Keisha Robinson
•How does it handle mixed-use items like when you use your personal phone for business calls? Does it give you documentation in case of an audit?
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GalaxyGuardian
•I'm skeptical about AI tax tools. How accurate is it really? I've heard horror stories of people getting audited because software missed important details.
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Yara Nassar
•For mixed-use items like phones, you enter the total cost and estimate the business percentage, and it calculates the deductible amount. It also provides guidelines for reasonable percentages based on your business type so you don't overreach. Regarding documentation, it actually creates an audit defense file with all your supporting documents organized by deduction category. It explains the tax rules that justify each deduction and stores digital copies of all receipts and evidence. Several users reported this was invaluable when responding to IRS notices.
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Natasha Volkova
Here's a simple breakdown of what qualifies as self-employment income vs hobby: - Self-employment: You do it regularly, keep business records, depend on the income, work at it consistently, have expertise in it, make changes to increase profitability - Hobby: You do it irregularly, don't really need the money from it, do it mainly for fun, don't spend much time on it If you have a hobby, you still report the income but don't pay self-employment tax and can't deduct losses. With $8700, chances are its self-employment. Most of my "hobby" friends who started making real money had to switch to treating it as a business after they crossed about $2000 in annual income.
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Javier Torres
•Does having a separate bank account matter for proving it's a business? I just use my personal checking for everything.
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Natasha Volkova
•Having a separate bank account isn't required but it's extremely helpful for proving business intent. It shows you're treating the activity professionally and makes tracking income and expenses much easier. It's one of the factors the IRS considers when determining if something is a business vs. hobby. Other factors include business cards, a business name, proper recordkeeping, and marketing efforts. The more business-like behaviors you demonstrate, the stronger your case for self-employment treatment.
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Emma Davis
Don't forget that if your net self-employment income is over $400, you need to make estimated quarterly tax payments throughout the year! I learned this the hard way and got hit with penalties my first year.
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CosmicCaptain
•Wait I've never done quarterly payments! I've been self-employed for 2 years and always just paid at tax time. How much trouble am I in?
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