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Oliver Becker

When do I need to worry about quarterly payments for self employment taxes?

So I've been doing some side gig work that doesn't bring in much money - only a few hundred dollars a year. Last year I made around $580 and the year before was similar, maybe $520 or so. I'm a little confused about when I actually have to start making those quarterly estimated tax payments for self employment income. My income from this work is pretty sporadic - some months I might make $100, then nothing for a couple months, then maybe $50 here and there. It's not consistent at all which makes me wonder how I'd even figure out quarterly payments if I needed to. Is there a specific dollar amount where the IRS requires you to start making quarterly payments? And does it matter that my income is so irregular? I'm just trying to stay compliant without creating extra work for myself if I don't need to. I'd really appreciate any guidance on this!

The quick answer is that you generally need to make quarterly estimated tax payments if you expect to owe at least $1,000 in taxes for the year when you file your return. With your level of self-employment income being under $600 annually, you're likely well below this threshold. Self-employment taxes (Social Security and Medicare) are calculated at 15.3% of your net earnings, and then you have regular income tax on top of that. But at a few hundred dollars of income, both of these combined would be well under the $1,000 threshold. That said, you should still report this income on your tax return using Schedule C, even if you don't receive a 1099 form. The old "$600 rule" is about when businesses must send you a 1099, not about when you need to report income.

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So if my side hustle starts making more money - let's say I jump up to $5,000 this year - would I need to start making quarterly payments then? And if I didn't know at the beginning of the year that I'd make that much, what happens?

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At $5,000 in self-employment income, you'd be getting closer to the threshold where quarterly payments might be needed. After accounting for the self-employment tax deduction and standard deduction, you'd still likely be under the $1,000 tax liability threshold, but it depends on your overall tax situation including any other income you have. If you unexpectedly earn more during the year, the IRS generally won't penalize you if you pay at least 90% of your current year's tax liability or 100% of your previous year's tax liability (whichever is smaller) through withholding or estimated payments. This is known as the "safe harbor" rule and gives you some protection if your income increases unexpectedly.

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Emma Davis

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Omar Zaki

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One thing to remember is that even if you don't need to make quarterly payments, you still need to report ALL self-employment income on your tax return, even if it's under $600. The $600 threshold is just for when clients need to send you a 1099 form, not for when you need to report income. I learned this the hard way after an audit where they found income I didn't report because I thought "no 1099 = don't need to report it." Big mistake!

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Oliver Becker

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Thanks for pointing this out! So even my small amounts like $580 should be reported then? Do I need to keep detailed records of every little payment I receive throughout the year?

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Omar Zaki

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Yes, you absolutely need to report all income regardless of the amount. The IRS expects you to report every dollar you earn. As for record-keeping, you should maintain basic documentation of all income and expenses related to your self-employment work. It doesn't have to be fancy - a simple spreadsheet with dates, amounts, and description of payments works fine. Same for expenses: keep receipts (digital is fine) for anything you might deduct. If you're ever audited, having these records will save you a lot of headaches.

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Just fyi, if u have a regular job where taxes are taken out, you can also adjust your W-4 to have extra withholding taken from your paycheck instead of doing the quarterly payments. Thats what I do for my side gig. Way easier than figuring out quarterly payments!!!

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This is the best advice here! I did this too and it's so much simpler. Just estimate roughly what you'll owe for the year from your side hustle and divide by your number of paychecks, then have that much extra withheld from each check.

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Adrian Connor

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This is really helpful advice everyone! I'm in a similar situation with freelance writing work that brings in maybe $800-900 per year. Reading through these responses, it sounds like I don't need to stress about quarterly payments at my income level, but I definitely need to make sure I'm reporting everything on Schedule C. The suggestion about adjusting W-4 withholding is brilliant - I never thought about that option. Since I have a regular day job, that would be so much easier than trying to calculate quarterly payments for such irregular income. Has anyone here actually done the math on how much extra to withhold? I'm wondering if there's a simple way to estimate it.

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