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Dmitry Smirnov

Do I need to pay quarterly taxes on my side gig income or not?

I'm working a regular full-time job as a sound technician and have always just filed my annual taxes like everyone else. Pretty straightforward stuff. Around late 2023, I started doing some freelance audio mixing on the side. It's not a ton of money - brought in maybe $1800 over the year. For my last couple tax returns, I reported these earnings alongside my regular income and thought I was good to go. But now I've picked up another side gig working for a tech startup called DataSense during my evenings. From August through December, I made about $3720. Recently I've been seeing stuff online about paying quarterly taxes, which I've honestly never heard of before. So what's the deal? Do I need to pay quarterly on this stuff or not? Is this even enough extra income to worry about? I saw something saying you don't need to bother with quarterly payments unless you expect to owe more than $1k. But I'm confused if this $1k threshold applies to each freelance job separately or all my side income combined. Individually, each gig would have me owing under $1k, but together I'm looking at maybe $1700 in taxes. Really don't want to drop money on an accountant just to answer this basic question, but I also don't want to mess up and get hit with penalties.

Ava Rodriguez

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You're asking a good question that confuses a lot of people who are new to self-employment income. The $1,000 threshold applies to your total tax liability beyond what's being withheld from your regular job, not each individual side gig. Here's the simple version: If you expect to owe $1,000 or more in taxes from ALL your self-employment income combined (after accounting for what's already being withheld from your day job), then you generally need to make quarterly estimated tax payments. Based on the numbers you shared, it sounds like you'll likely owe more than $1,000 in additional taxes when combining both side gigs, so you probably should be making quarterly payments. Something to consider: You might be able to increase your withholding at your full-time job instead of making separate quarterly payments. Talk to your employer about adjusting your W-4 to withhold additional amounts to cover the taxes on your side income.

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Thanks for explaining. So if I understand correctly, since my combined side gigs will probably have me owing more than $1k in taxes, I should be doing quarterly payments. If I increase withholding at my day job instead, would I still need to do anything special when filing, or would it all just get sorted out when I file annually?

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Ava Rodriguez

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You're understanding correctly! The IRS just wants their money throughout the year rather than all at once at tax time. If you increase your withholding at your day job, you wouldn't need to make separate quarterly payments. When you file your annual return, everything gets reconciled together. You'd still report all your self-employment income on Schedule C and calculate the self-employment tax on Schedule SE, but the additional withholding from your paycheck would count toward covering those taxes. It's often simpler than tracking four separate quarterly payments.

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Miguel Diaz

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Miguel Diaz

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Paolo Longo

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Another thing to consider is that if you had no tax liability last year (meaning you didn't owe anything when you filed), you don't have to make estimated payments this year regardless of how much you earn from self-employment. This is called the "safe harbor" rule. Also, if your W-2 withholding covers at least 90% of your current year tax or 100% of your prior year tax (110% if your AGI was over $150k), you're also safe from penalties. So you could potentially avoid quarterly payments by just adjusting your W-2 withholding as someone mentioned.

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That's interesting about the safe harbor rule. I did owe a small amount last year (about $200) when I filed, so I guess that doesn't apply to me. If I adjust my W-4 at work, how do I figure out how much extra to withhold to cover these side gigs?

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Paolo Longo

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Since you owed last year, you're right that the first safe harbor option won't apply. But the second one might still work for you. For calculating the additional withholding needed, a quick estimation is to take your expected side income for the year and multiply it by about 30% to account for both income tax and self-employment tax (15.3%). So if you expect to make around $5500 from both side gigs combined for the year, you'd want to withhold about $1650 extra throughout the year, which breaks down to around $137 extra per month if withheld evenly. You can adjust your W-4 by filling out the "Extra withholding" line in Step 4(c). Your payroll department should be able to help you implement this.

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Amina Bah

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Does anyone know if you can just make one big quarterly payment at the beginning of the year instead of 4 separate ones? I always forget the deadlines and miss at least one payment.

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Oliver Becker

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You can actually pay all estimated taxes upfront if you want! The IRS is happy to take your money early. Just make sure you're using the correct payment voucher (Form 1040-ES) and indicating which quarter you're paying for. The only downside is you're giving the government an interest-free loan if you pay way ahead of schedule. But if it helps you avoid penalties for missed deadlines, it's probably worth it.

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Omar Farouk

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I've been in a similar boat with side income confusion! One thing that really helped me was using the IRS's own estimated tax worksheet (Form 1040-ES) to calculate exactly what I owed. It walks you through the math step by step. For your situation with around $5,500 total side income, you're definitely looking at owing more than $1,000 in combined income tax and self-employment tax. The self-employment tax alone (15.3%) on that amount would be about $842, plus regular income tax on top. A few practical tips that saved me headaches: - Set up automatic transfers to a separate "tax savings" account for about 25-30% of each side gig payment - Keep detailed records of any business expenses (equipment, software, travel, etc.) - they can add up to significant deductions - Consider making your first quarterly payment ASAP if you haven't already, even if it's just an estimate The good news is once you get into the rhythm of either quarterly payments or adjusted W-4 withholding, it becomes pretty routine. Much better than getting hit with a big tax bill and penalties next April!

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Jibriel Kohn

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The automatic transfer tip is brilliant! I wish I had thought of that earlier. I've been manually trying to remember to set aside money each time I get paid from my freelance work, but half the time I forget and then scramble when quarterly payments are due. Quick question - when you say 25-30% of each payment, is that before or after any business expenses? Like if I made $500 from a gig but had $50 in expenses, should I be setting aside 25-30% of the full $500 or just the $450 net? Also really appreciate the reminder about keeping detailed expense records. I've been pretty sloppy about that and probably missing out on deductions.

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