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Has anyone considered a multiple support agreement? I was in a similar situation where me and my brother both supported our disabled sister. Neither of us provided more than 50% alone, but together we provided over 100% of her support. We used Form 2120 and alternated who claimed her each year.

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Ethan Brown

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This is actually a great point! Multiple support agreements can be really helpful when several people contribute. My family does this for my aunt - we all pitch in but no one person hits 50%.

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This is such a helpful thread! I'm dealing with a similar situation with my disabled brother. One thing I wanted to add that hasn't been mentioned yet - if your siblings receive any government benefits like SSI or SSDI, make sure to check if those count toward their "gross income" for the qualifying relative test. From what I understand, SSI payments generally don't count as taxable income, but SSDI might depending on the total amount and other factors. This could affect whether your working sibling exceeds that $4,700 income threshold. Also, Diego, since you mentioned your father only receives Social Security and doesn't file taxes, you might want to confirm he's not eligible to claim them first before you do. Even if he doesn't file, he might still have the right to claim them as dependents if he wanted to file. Keep detailed records of everything - I use a spreadsheet tracking every expense I cover for my brother throughout the year. Makes tax time so much easier!

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Emma Wilson

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This is really valuable information about SSI vs SSDI! I hadn't thought about how different types of disability benefits might be treated differently for tax purposes. You make a great point about confirming with my father first too. Even though he doesn't currently file, I should probably have that conversation to make sure we're not stepping on each other's toes. Better to sort that out upfront than deal with issues later. The spreadsheet idea is brilliant - I've been keeping receipts but not in any organized way. Do you track things like a percentage of utilities or groceries when you buy things that benefit your brother? I'm trying to figure out how detailed I need to get with the support calculation.

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Great question about tracking expenses! For my spreadsheet, I do break down shared expenses proportionally. For example, if I buy groceries that benefit both my brother and the family he lives with, I estimate what percentage went to his needs specifically. Same with utilities - if I pay the electric bill for the house, I calculate roughly what portion supports him. I also track direct expenses separately (his medications, clothing, medical appointments, etc.) since those are easier to attribute 100% to his support. The key is being reasonable and consistent with your estimates. I keep notes explaining my calculations in case I ever need to justify them. One tip - take photos of receipts with your phone right away. I learned this the hard way when some of my paper receipts faded over the year! Also, if you pay for anything online for them, save those email confirmations and screenshots of the transactions.

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Kyle Wallace

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My extension request last year wasn't accepted until April 17th (two days after the deadline) but I still didn't get any penalties because I submitted on April 14th. The IRS system gets super bogged down right at the deadline so delays are normal. Your submission date is what matters!!!!

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Ryder Ross

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Thanks for sharing your experience! That's reassuring. Did you get any kind of confirmation email when you initially submitted the extension? I submitted mine but only got a "we received your transmission" email, not an actual acceptance.

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Tyrone Hill

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I went through this exact same panic last year! Filed my extension on April 14th through FreeTaxUSA and didn't get confirmation until April 18th. I was freaking out thinking I'd get hit with penalties, but everything turned out fine. The key thing to remember is that the IRS considers your extension "filed" the moment you hit submit, not when they send you confirmation. As long as you submitted before midnight on April 15th (which you did on April 13th), you're protected from the failure-to-file penalty. Since you included your estimated tax payment of $2,300 with the extension, you should also be protected from most late payment penalties. The IRS is pretty reasonable about this - they know their system gets overwhelmed right at the deadline. Keep your submission confirmation from TurboTax as proof of your filing date. That timestamp is gold if you ever need to dispute any penalties. You did everything right - try not to stress about it!

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NeonNebula

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I run a small 501c3 and we have volunteers do fundraisers all the time. The BEST way is to set up a "Designated Fund Agent" relationship. This is a formal arrangement where the charity authorizes you in writing to collect funds on their behalf. The money never becomes your income - you're just acting as an agent for the nonprofit. The charity should provide you with a formal letter stating you're authorized to collect funds for the specific event, and you'll need to keep detailed records of all transactions.

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Does the Designated Fund Agent approach work for online payments too? Like if I want to set up a page where people can buy tickets with credit cards?

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Yes, the Designated Fund Agent approach can work with online payments, but you need to be careful about how you set it up. The payment processor account should ideally be opened in the charity's name with you listed as an authorized user, rather than using your personal account. If that's not possible, make sure your written authorization from the charity specifically mentions online collection methods and payment processing. You'll want to transfer funds to the charity frequently (daily or weekly) rather than letting large amounts accumulate in your personal accounts. Also keep detailed records of all transaction fees - the charity can reimburse you for those processing costs without creating taxable income for you. Some payment processors like PayPal have special nonprofit rates that might save money too.

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TechNinja

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The key thing to remember is that you want to avoid the money ever being considered your personal income. I've organized several charity events and learned this the hard way on my first one. Here's what works: Have the charities set up a joint event account or designate one of them to handle all finances. They collect the $200 ticket sales directly, then reimburse you for your documented $135 in expenses. This reimbursement is NOT taxable income to you - it's just covering your costs. Make sure to get a written agreement upfront that designates you as their authorized event coordinator and specifies the reimbursement process. Keep receipts for everything - catering, venue, entertainment, etc. The charity can then provide donors with proper tax-deductible receipts for the full $200. If the charities resist handling the money directly, explain that this approach actually protects them too - they maintain full control over the funds and can ensure proper documentation for their own tax reporting. Most 501c3s prefer this once they understand the benefits. Whatever you do, avoid having ticket sales flow through your personal accounts, even temporarily. That creates unnecessary tax complications and audit risks you don't want to deal with.

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Oscar Murphy

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This is excellent advice! I'm new to organizing charity events and was getting overwhelmed by all the different approaches mentioned here. Having the charity handle the money directly from the start really does seem like the cleanest solution. One follow-up question - when you say "get a written agreement upfront," does this need to be something formal like a contract, or would a simple email from the charity board suffice? I want to make sure I have proper documentation but don't want to overcomplicate things for the small nonprofits I'm working with. Also, did you run into any issues with vendors who prefer to deal directly with the event organizer rather than the charity? Some of my potential vendors seem hesitant to work through a third party for payments.

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Are incorporated contractors (C-corp/S-corp) losing opportunities to staffing agencies due to company classification preferences? [USA]

I've been running my own S-corporation for about 3 years now, working as an independent IT consultant. Recently I've noticed a disturbing trend where companies I used to contract with directly are now requiring all contractors to go through staffing agencies instead of hiring incorporated contractors like myself. Last month, I got turned down for a project I was perfect for because the client said their new policy was "agency contractors only" - even though I have my own corporation with proper insurance, compliance, etc. When I explained that my S-corp status should address their classification concerns, they seemed confused about the distinction. It feels like there's this weird gray area where companies don't understand that independent contractors who operate through their own corporation (C-corp or S-corp) actually provide the same or BETTER classification protection than a staffing agency middleman. Meanwhile, these agencies take a massive cut (sometimes 30-40%!) of what would otherwise be my billing rate. I'm wondering if other incorporated contractors are experiencing this or if it's just my industry? Are these companies just not educated on the difference between a sole proprietor/LLC contractor (which might have classification risks) versus incorporated contractors who are employees of their own corp? Seems like they're missing out on great talent while paying more than necessary just because they don't understand the distinction.

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Has anyone successfully used the "Reasonable Basis" safe harbor protection for their S-corp contractor status? My accountant mentioned this as a way to strengthen my classification position with potential clients, but I'm not sure how to effectively communicate this to companies that seem set on using staffing agencies.

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Isabel Vega

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The "Reasonable Basis" safe harbor can definitely strengthen your position, but it's not a simple concept to explain to clients. It essentially means that if you have a reasonable basis for treating workers as independent contractors (like following industry practice or relying on past IRS audits), you get additional protection. For S-corps specifically, there's substantial precedent supporting the classification distinction. I've had success creating a simple one-page addendum to proposals that specifically references Section 530 of the Revenue Act and how it applies to incorporated contractors with their own employees (even if that employee is just you as the owner). Including relevant case citations shows you've done your homework.

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Amun-Ra Azra

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That's really helpful, thanks! I'll work with my accountant to put together something similar. Do you find that this approach works better with smaller companies or is it effective with larger corporations too?

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NebulaNomad

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This is such a frustrating trend that's affecting a lot of us incorporated contractors. I've been dealing with the same issue with my C-corp consulting business - companies that used to hire me directly now insist on going through agencies, even when I can demonstrate that my corporate structure actually provides better classification protection than many agency arrangements. What's particularly maddening is that these companies end up paying MORE for the same work (agency markup + my rate) while getting less direct communication and flexibility. I've started including a brief "Independent Contractor Classification FAQ" with my proposals that explains how incorporated contractors differ from sole proprietors in terms of classification risk, but it's an uphill battle against blanket policies. The education aspect is key - most hiring managers genuinely don't understand that when you're working through your own S-corp or C-corp, you're technically an employee of your corporation, which creates the separation they're looking for. Has anyone had success getting procurement or legal departments to review and approve exceptions to "agency-only" policies?

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Ayla Kumar

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Another aspect to consider is whether your bracelets have a message or theme that ties directly to your exempt purpose. The "substantially related" test looks at whether the activity contributes importantly to accomplishing your exempt purpose (other than just through generating income). For example, if you're an environmental nonprofit and the bracelets say "Save the Oceans" and include educational info about ocean conservation, that strengthens your case that they're related to your exempt purpose. But if they're generic bracelets that don't tie to your mission, that's harder to defend. Also worth noting that net income from the activity matters too - if you're barely breaking even on the bracelets, the IRS is less likely to be concerned even if it might technically be unrelated business income.

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Mason Lopez

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Thanks for this insight! Yes, our bracelets have our organization's name and this year's event theme which is directly tied to our mission of supporting literacy in underserved communities. The bracelet says "Read Together 2025" which is our campaign slogan. We're expecting to make roughly $4,500 from the sales (charging $15 for bracelets that cost us $5 to make). Would an amount like that even be worth the IRS's attention? I've heard there might be some minimum threshold before they care.

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Ayla Kumar

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That messaging connection to your literacy mission definitely strengthens your position that this is substantially related to your exempt purpose. The bracelets are promoting your specific campaign and mission, not just generic merchandise. Regarding the amount, there is a reporting threshold - you only need to file Form 990-T if your gross unrelated business income is $1,000 or more. However, that's a moot point if the activity qualifies as related to your exempt purpose, which yours seems to. The $4,500 profit margin isn't large enough to likely trigger special scrutiny, but it's always the nature of the activity rather than the amount that determines if UBIT applies.

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Don't forget about the fragmentation rule with UBIT! The IRS will look at each activity separately, not your organization as a whole. So even if 99% of what you do is clearly related to your exempt purpose, that 1% unrelated activity could still trigger UBIT. Also, there's a misconception that if you use the profits for your exempt purpose, it exempts you from UBIT. That's not true - it's about the nature of the activity generating the income, not what you do with the proceeds.

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Is there a specific percentage of total income that nonprofits should stay under to avoid UBIT becoming an issue? Like if this bracelet fundraiser is less than 10% of their total annual revenue, does that make it less likely for the IRS to care?

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There isn't really a specific percentage threshold that creates a "safe harbor" from UBIT. The IRS evaluates each unrelated business activity on its own merits regardless of what percentage of total revenue it represents. However, you're right that smaller amounts tend to get less scrutiny in practice. The key factors are still: 1) Is it regularly carried on? 2) Is it substantially related to your exempt purpose? 3) Does it meet any specific exceptions? What matters more than the percentage is documenting why the activity IS related to your exempt purpose. In Mason's case with literacy-focused bracelets saying "Read Together 2025," that's a much stronger position than if they were selling generic merchandise that happened to raise money for literacy programs. The fragmentation rule Lorenzo mentioned is important though - even small unrelated activities can technically trigger UBIT if they don't qualify for an exception, regardless of your organization's overall mission focus.

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