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TurboTax rental question: How to dispose of old HVAC that was entered as one combined cost basis line item 10+ years ago?

I replaced the HVAC system at my rental property this year after the old one finally died. Added the new system as a depreciable asset no problem, but I'm completely stuck on how to handle the disposal of the old unit in TurboTax. The previous HVAC was installed back in 2013 and was entered as a single combined cost basis line item (like $8,700 if I remember right). The issue is that I've been depreciating it all these years, but now I need to remove it from my assets since it's gone. When I try to use the "dispose of asset" function in TurboTax, it wants me to enter what portion of the original cost basis I'm disposing of. Since the HVAC was entered as one combined item (not broken down into components like compressor, air handler, etc.), I have no idea what value to put. Do I need to somehow figure out what percentage of the original purchase was just for the HVAC? Or do I dispose of the entire asset line and then add back anything that wasn't part of the HVAC? This might be a TurboTax-specific question but I'm hoping someone here has dealt with a similar situation. The property has other capital improvements from that time period that were all entered together.

This is actually a common issue with rental property accounting. The IRS allows you to handle this a couple of different ways. The simplest approach is to dispose of the entire asset as entered (the full $8,700 cost basis line item) and report that as a disposal. Since the HVAC was fully installed and functioning as a single system, treating it as a single asset makes sense from an accounting perspective. In TurboTax, you'll want to indicate a $0 sale price (assuming you didn't get any value from scrapping it) and the program will calculate the loss based on the remaining undepreciated value. Then, if there were other items included in that original line item that are still in use (like ductwork or other components), you would add those back as a new asset with their own depreciation schedule. You'd need to make a reasonable estimate of their value at the time of the original installation. Remember to keep good records of how you handled this in case of future audits. The key is being consistent and using reasonable estimates for the values.

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Does this approach create a "loss" for tax purposes that can offset rental income? Also, how would you determine a reasonable estimate for components that are still in use if they were never broken out separately in the original purchase?

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Yes, this typically creates a loss that can offset your rental income in the current year. The loss amount would be the remaining undepreciated value of the disposed asset. For determining values of components still in use, you have some flexibility as long as your approach is reasonable. You could use proportional estimates based on replacement costs (if you got itemized quotes for the new system), industry standards for component costs, or even get a retroactive opinion from an HVAC contractor about what percentage of the original system value would have been in the components that remained.

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How does this service handle situations where the original receipts are long gone? My rental property has assets from 15 years ago and I'm worried about what happens if something needs replacing.

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Just curious - would it work to simply continue depreciating the old HVAC on the original schedule, and then separately depreciate the new system? It seems like that would be simpler than trying to figure out disposal calculations, especially if you don't have detailed records.

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No, that would be incorrect and potentially problematic in an audit. When you dispose of a depreciable asset, you must remove it from your depreciation schedule. Continuing to depreciate an asset that no longer exists is essentially claiming deductions you're not entitled to, which is a red flag for the IRS.

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Thanks for clarifying. I didn't realize you had to formally dispose of assets when replaced. Makes sense though - can't double dip on depreciation for essentially the same function.

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Another option nobody mentioned is Form 3115 (Change in Accounting Method) if you've been depreciating things incorrectly for years. I had to use this for my rental properties when I realized I had lumped together items with different class lives. It's complicated but lets you correct past mistakes without amending returns.

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Form 3115 is serious overkill for this situation. That's for systematic accounting method changes, not for disposing of a single asset. It's a complex form that usually requires professional help and should be avoided unless absolutely necessary.

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