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Tony Brooks

Figuring out my tax obligations as newly self-employed in Texas - confused about timing!

I'm in a bit of a strange situation with my taxes this year and hoping someone can help clear things up. I was working a regular job until around July 2023, then took some time off for about 3 months. In October, I started doing independent contractor work through an online platform where I get paid via PayPal. From what I've researched, I now need to pay self-employment taxes by finding my tax bracket and adding the self-employment tax on top of that. I also read that I'm supposed to pay quarterly if I'll owe more than $1000 in taxes. I made approximately $5600 from October through December last year, and if my calculations are right, I'll need to pay around $1600 in taxes on that income. What I'm confused about is WHEN I need to pay this. Was I supposed to make a quarterly payment this month for the work I did in the last quarter of 2023? Or can I just pay everything when I file my tax return after I get my W-2 from my previous employer? I plan to continue this self-employment work throughout 2024, and I think I understand how to handle this year's taxes going forward, but I'm completely lost on what to do about last year's self-employment income. Any help would be greatly appreciated!

You've got a few things to unpack here, but don't worry - it's manageable! For your 2023 income, you have two options. You can either make an estimated tax payment for Q4 of 2023 (which was due January 16, 2024) OR you can pay it all when you file your 2023 tax return by April 15, 2024. If you wait until you file your return, you might face a small underpayment penalty, but if this is your first year with self-employment income, the penalty may be waived. When you file your return, you'll include both your W-2 income from your regular job and your self-employment income on Schedule C. The self-employment tax (15.3% for Social Security and Medicare) will be calculated on Schedule SE. For 2024, since you're continuing this work, you should plan on making quarterly estimated tax payments (due April 15, June 15, September 15, and January 15, 2025) to avoid underpayment penalties next year.

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Yara Campbell

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Does the IRS automatically waive the penalty for first time self-employed people? Or do you have to request it somehow? Also, is there a specific form to fill out for the quarterly payments?

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The IRS doesn't automatically waive penalties, but they do have a "first-time abatement" policy that you can request if you've had a good tax compliance history for the past three years. You'd need to call the IRS or include a letter explaining your situation when you file. For quarterly payments, you'll use Form 1040-ES. You can pay online through the IRS Direct Pay system, their online payment agreement, or mail in a check with the payment voucher included in the 1040-ES form package.

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Nina Chan

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One thing no one has mentioned yet - if your regular W-2 job had enough taxes withheld, it might actually cover your self-employment tax obligation too, especially since you only did the contract work for a few months. Check out the "safe harbor" rules. If your withholding for 2023 covers at least 90% of your total tax liability OR 100% of your 2022 tax liability (110% if your AGI was over $150,000), you won't face an underpayment penalty even if you didn't make estimated payments. This saved me last year when I started freelancing but had already had a bunch withheld from my day job earlier in the year.

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Tony Brooks

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Thanks for mentioning this! I actually did have quite a bit withheld from my W-2 job in the first half of the year. How do I figure out if I meet the safe harbor rules? Do I need to look at my previous tax return?

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Nina Chan

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You'll need to look at your 2022 tax return to find your total tax (should be on line 24 of your 2022 Form 1040). If your total withholding from your W-2 job in 2023 covers 100% of that amount, you're protected by the safe harbor rule and won't face any underpayment penalties. Alternatively, if your 2023 withholding covers at least 90% of what you'll owe for 2023 (including both your W-2 and self-employment income), you're also safe. You'll need to calculate your total expected tax to check this option.

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Ruby Knight

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I've been self-employed in Texas for 5 years now and the best advice I can give is to set aside 25-30% of your earnings right away in a separate savings account. That way when tax time comes, you're not scrambling. Also, don't forget that Texas has no state income tax, which is one less thing to worry about compared to folks in other states!

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Do you use any specific tax software for your self-employment taxes? I've been using TurboTax but wondering if there's something better for independent contractors.

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Everett Tutum

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The safe harbor rule that Nina mentioned is huge and could save you from penalties! Since you worked a regular W-2 job through July 2023, there's a good chance you already had enough taxes withheld to meet the safe harbor requirements. Here's what you need to check: Look at your 2022 tax return (Form 1040, line 24) to see your total tax liability. If your 2023 W-2 withholding equals or exceeds that amount, you're completely protected from underpayment penalties regardless of when you pay your self-employment taxes. For your situation with $5600 in self-employment income from October-December, you're looking at roughly $861 in self-employment tax (15.3%) plus regular income tax on that amount. If your W-2 withholding already covered your safe harbor requirement, you can simply pay everything when you file your 2023 return by April 15th without any penalties. Going forward for 2024, definitely start making quarterly estimated payments since you'll have self-employment income all year. The 25-30% rule Ruby mentioned is spot on - I'd lean toward 30% to be safe since you'll owe both regular income tax and the 15.3% self-employment tax.

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Lucy Taylor

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This is really helpful! I'm new to all this self-employment stuff and honestly had no idea about the safe harbor rule. Just to make sure I understand - if my W-2 withholding from January through July already covered what I owed in 2022, then I'm basically protected even though I didn't make any quarterly payments for my October-December freelance work? That would be such a relief because I was really worried about getting hit with penalties on top of everything else I need to figure out with these taxes.

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