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Julia Hall

PSA: How to Get IRS Penalties Abated in 2025 - What Most Taxpayers Don't Know

I've been seeing tons of helpful tax advice around here lately, but it seems like nobody's talking about penalty abatement enough. If you've been hit with IRS penalties, you should know that you can actually request to have most of them removed (including failure to file, failure to pay, and accuracy related penalties). The IRS doesn't have to approve your request, but it's free to ask and won't make your situation worse. Here are the three main ways the IRS will typically abate penalties: 1) Reasonable Cause - This is when you tried your best to meet tax obligations but couldn't due to circumstances beyond your control. For example, if your house burned down with all your records, you were seriously ill or hospitalized, a close family member died, you got a wrong W-2 or 1099 that seemed correct, or you relied on tax advice from a professional. Basically, this is saying "I know I had obligations but extreme circumstances prevented me from meeting them." The IRS might ask for documentation like insurance claims or medical records. 2) First Time Abatement - This is basically your "freebie" from the IRS if you've been a good taxpayer until now. To qualify, you need to have filed all required returns, paid or arranged to pay taxes due, and had no penalties in the past 3 years. Even if you've gotten reasonable cause relief before, you can still qualify for First Time Abatement. 3) Incorrect Written Advice from IRS - If the IRS gave you wrong info in writing and you followed it, they'll remove the penalties. You'll need to file Form 843 for this type of abatement (the others can be requested with a letter to the IRS). You can also request relief if you got incorrect advice over the phone, but you'll need to prove the IRS gave you bad info, so this one rarely works out. **What Can't Be Abated** Interest generally can't be abated. However, if your penalties get removed, ask the IRS to recalculate the interest. Since interest is calculated on penalties too, removing penalties will reduce your interest (and if you only owed penalties, interest would drop to $0). **State Penalty Abatement** Every state I've dealt with (NJ, NY, PA, CA at least) has some type of abatement program too. The rules vary by state, so check your state's division of revenue/taxation website for their specific requirements.

Arjun Patel

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Enrolled Agent here - this is excellent advice that too many taxpayers miss out on. To add a bit more detail about the First Time Abatement (FTA) policy - it's one of the easiest ways to get penalties removed, but it's not widely advertised by the IRS. In fact, when you call them, representatives often don't mention it as an option unless you specifically ask. For the Reasonable Cause request, be as specific as possible about your circumstances. Vague explanations like "I was busy" or "I forgot" won't work. But detailed explanations with supporting documentation about medical issues, natural disasters, or family emergencies are much more likely to succeed. Also worth noting: if you have multiple years with penalties, try to use Reasonable Cause for some years and save your FTA for others, since FTA can only be used once every 3 years. And don't be discouraged if your first request is denied - you can appeal the decision.

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Jade Lopez

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This is super helpful! Question though - I got hit with a failure to file penalty for my 2023 taxes because I filed 3 months late. Would I qualify for First Time Abatement? I've never had penalties before but I'm not sure if it's too late to request it now in 2025?

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Arjun Patel

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You would likely qualify for First Time Abatement if you've had clean compliance for the three tax years prior to 2023. It's definitely not too late to request it now in 2025 - you generally have up to 3 years from when you filed the return or 2 years from when you paid the penalty (whichever is later) to request abatement. The best way to request it is to call the IRS directly at the number on your notice and specifically mention that you'd like to request "First Time Abatement" for your failure to file penalty. Have your notice and tax return information ready when you call.

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Tony Brooks

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I just want to share my experience with taxr.ai because it saved me from a huge headache with penalties. Last year I got a CP2000 notice saying I owed about $2,700 in taxes plus almost $500 in penalties because of some stock sales I apparently didn't report properly. I was freaking out and had no idea what to do. Someone recommended https://taxr.ai and I uploaded my CP2000 notice. The system analyzed it and immediately identified that I qualified for First Time Abatement since I'd never had penalties before. It also found errors in how the IRS calculated my taxes on those stock sales. The AI generated a detailed response letter explaining why the penalties should be abated and provided calculations showing why the tax assessment was incorrect. I sent it in exactly as recommended and got a revised notice 6 weeks later with penalties completely removed and the tax amount reduced to just $850!

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Does it really work that easily? I've got a penalty notice for late filing my 2023 taxes because I was going through a divorce and everything was chaotic. Would this help with my situation too? Also, did you have to provide any documentation or just the letter?

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Yara Campbell

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I'm a bit skeptical... how much does this service cost? Seems like something I could just do myself with a template letter. And how do you know they're giving accurate advice? Have you verified the results with an actual tax professional?

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Tony Brooks

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It really did work that easily for me. The system specifically looks at your notice and circumstances to determine the best approach. For your divorce situation, it would likely recommend a reasonable cause abatement with some documentation about the divorce proceedings. I didn't need to provide documentation for my First Time Abatement request, just the letter, but for reasonable cause situations like yours they guide you on what supporting documents to include. Regarding cost and accuracy - I honestly felt the same way initially but decided to try it since the penalties were significant. The analysis was thorough and they explained exactly why I qualified for abatement using specific IRS rules and procedures. I did verify with a friend who's a tax preparer who confirmed their approach was correct.

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Just wanted to update about my experience with taxr.ai that was mentioned earlier. After my skepticism, I decided to give it a try with my divorce-related penalty situation. The system asked detailed questions about my circumstances and created a reasonable cause letter specifically citing how my divorce affected my ability to file on time. I submitted the letter last month along with a copy of my divorce filing as documentation. Just got a response yesterday - penalties of $890 completely removed! The system even explained that because I had a legitimate reasonable cause scenario, I could still use my First Time Abatement for any future issues. Definitely saved me a lot of stress and money.

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Isaac Wright

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For those who are getting nowhere with written penalty abatement requests, I found a service called Claimyr that helped me actually speak to someone at the IRS after weeks of trying. I kept calling the IRS number on my notice about penalties for missing estimated tax payments, but I'd wait 2+ hours then get disconnected. Super frustrating! Found https://claimyr.com through a tax forum and decided to try it. You can see how it works in this video: https://youtu.be/_kiP6q8DX5c - basically they use technology to wait on hold with the IRS for you, then call you when an actual agent picks up. Within 2 days I was connected to an IRS agent and explained my situation (had medical issues that prevented me from making quarterly payments). The agent walked me through requesting abatement over the phone, and they approved it right then! Had about $430 in penalties waived in a 15-minute call after spending weeks trying to get through on my own.

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Maya Diaz

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How does this actually work? Do you have to give them your personal info? I'm worried about security and giving access to my tax information to some random service.

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Yara Campbell

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This sounds too good to be true. Are we seriously expected to believe that after weeks of not being able to reach the IRS, some magical service got you through in 2 days? And then they immediately approved your abatement request over the phone? I've dealt with the IRS for years and it's NEVER that easy.

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Isaac Wright

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The service is actually really straightforward. You enter your phone number on their website, and they use their system to dial the IRS and wait on hold. When they reach a human, they call you and connect you directly to the IRS agent. You're the one who talks to the IRS, not them, so you're not sharing any tax details with the service. I understand the skepticism completely. I felt the same way initially. What made the difference was that I was connected to the right department from the start rather than being transferred multiple times. The agent I spoke with was actually really helpful - they explained that for medical reasons, they can often approve penalty abatement immediately if it's clear-cut. More complex cases still require written correspondence, but simple reasonable cause scenarios can sometimes be handled on the call.

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Yara Campbell

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I need to eat crow about my skepticism regarding Claimyr. After doubting it would work, I reluctantly tried it for my own situation with failure-to-file penalties from a return I thought my accountant had e-filed (but hadn't). Never thought I'd get through to the IRS, but the service connected me within a day. The agent I spoke with was surprisingly helpful and explained I qualified for First Time Abatement. They processed it immediately while I was on the call and confirmed my $650 penalty would be removed. Really shocked this worked so smoothly. Saved me from writing a formal letter and waiting months for a response. Sometimes being proven wrong is a good thing!

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Tami Morgan

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I tried requesting penalty abatement for late filing this year due to some health issues, but got denied. The letter basically just said "your reason doesn't establish reasonable cause." Is there a specific way I should word things when I try again?

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Arjun Patel

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The key with reasonable cause requests is specificity and documentation. Don't just say "I had health issues" - explain exactly how your health prevented you from filing (were you hospitalized? Incapacitated? Under doctor's orders to avoid stress?). Also, the IRS looks for you to demonstrate that you filed as soon as you were able to. If you were sick in March but didn't file until October when the deadline with extension was April, they'll want to know why you didn't file shortly after recovery. If your first request was denied, you can try again with more detail and documentation. Include medical records (with personal details redacted), doctor's notes, or anything that verifies your condition. Also specifically state that you acted with "ordinary business care and prudence" but were still unable to meet your obligations due to circumstances beyond your control - that's language the IRS responds to.

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Tami Morgan

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Thanks for the detailed advice! I was in the hospital for about 3 weeks and then recovery at home for another month, but I just said "medical issues" in my letter without specifics. I'll rewrite with medical documentation and the exact dates and timeline, and use that "ordinary business care and prudence" language you suggested. One more question - should I send this as a new request or reference the previous denial? And should I mail it to the same address as before?

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Arjun Patel

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You should reference the previous denial in your new request. Include the date of the denial letter and any reference numbers it contained. This shows you're following up rather than making a completely new request. Mail it to the same address as shown on your denial letter. If possible, I'd recommend sending it certified mail with return receipt so you have proof of delivery. Include copies (not originals) of your medical documentation and the original denial letter. The hospital stay definitely strengthens your case significantly. Make sure to explain that you filed as soon as you were physically able to gather your tax documents and complete the return after your recovery.

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Rami Samuels

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Is anyone using TurboTax or other tax software that helps with penalty abatement requests? I'm wondering if I need to hire a professional or if I can handle this myself.

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Haley Bennett

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I've used FreeTaxUSA for the past few years and they have some basic guidance about penalty abatement in their help section, but they don't actually generate the letter for you. For my abatement request last year, I ended up finding a template online and customizing it myself. It worked, but took me quite a bit of research to feel confident. If the amount of the penalty is significant (like over $500), it might be worth consulting with a tax pro. If it's smaller, the DIY approach with some good research might be more cost-effective. The IRS website actually has decent info on what they're looking for in abatement requests.

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Diego Vargas

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This is incredibly useful information! I wish I had known about penalty abatement options earlier. I've been dealing with a failure-to-pay penalty from 2022 when I had to choose between paying my mortgage and paying my quarterly taxes after losing my job unexpectedly. I ended up paying the taxes late once I found new employment, but the penalties have been accumulating with interest. Based on what's been shared here, it sounds like I might qualify for reasonable cause abatement since job loss is typically considered a circumstance beyond my control. Quick question for the tax professionals here - when documenting job loss for reasonable cause, what kind of supporting documentation works best? I have my termination letter and unemployment benefit records. Would those be sufficient, or do I need additional proof that the job loss directly impacted my ability to pay on time? Also, does anyone know if there's a statute of limitations on requesting penalty abatement? It's been about 2 years since the penalties were assessed.

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Thais Soares

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Your job loss situation definitely sounds like it could qualify for reasonable cause abatement! Termination letter and unemployment records are exactly the type of documentation the IRS looks for. You might also want to include any documentation showing when you found new employment and when you were able to make the payment - this demonstrates you paid as soon as you were financially able. Good news on timing - you generally have up to 3 years from when you filed the return or 2 years from when you paid the penalty (whichever is later) to request abatement, so you should still be well within the window for a 2022 penalty. When you write your request, be specific about how the job loss directly prevented you from making timely payments. Mention that you had to prioritize essential living expenses like housing, and that you made the payment as soon as your financial situation improved. The IRS wants to see that you acted responsibly given your circumstances. As someone new to this community, I'm really grateful for all the detailed advice being shared here - wish I had found resources like this sooner!

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MoonlightSonata

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This thread has been incredibly eye-opening! I had no idea penalty abatement was even an option. I've been struggling with about $1,200 in failure-to-file penalties from my 2023 return because I was caring for my elderly father who had a stroke. I filed about 5 months late after getting his affairs sorted out. Reading through everyone's experiences, it sounds like I might have a good case for reasonable cause abatement. I have hospital records, power of attorney documents, and documentation showing when I was managing his care versus when I was finally able to get back to my own tax obligations. I'm torn between trying to handle this myself with a written request or using one of the services mentioned here to get connected with the IRS directly. For those who've been successful with reasonable cause requests, how detailed did you get in your letters? Did you include a timeline of events or just focus on the key facts? Also wondering - if I qualify for reasonable cause for 2023, would that affect my ability to use First Time Abatement for any future issues, or are those completely separate? Thanks to everyone sharing their knowledge here - this community is amazing!

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Olivia Harris

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Your situation with caring for your father after his stroke sounds like a textbook example of reasonable cause! The IRS specifically recognizes family medical emergencies as valid circumstances beyond your control. For the level of detail in your letter, I'd recommend including a clear timeline - when the stroke occurred, the period you were managing his care, and when you were able to return to your own affairs. The power of attorney documents and hospital records will really strengthen your case since they provide objective proof of the situation. To answer your question about First Time Abatement - reasonable cause and FTA are completely separate! Using reasonable cause for your 2023 situation won't affect your ability to use First Time Abatement in the future. In fact, if you have multiple years with penalties, you could potentially use reasonable cause for some and save FTA for others. Given that you have strong documentation and a clear reasonable cause scenario, you could probably handle this successfully with a written request. However, with $1,200 in penalties, if you're not comfortable writing the letter yourself, the cost of getting professional help or using one of the services mentioned might be worth it for peace of mind. Welcome to the community - situations like yours are exactly why penalty abatement exists, and I hope you get those penalties removed!

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