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Douglas Foster

How to submit a First Time Abatement Request to the IRS - what's the process?

Hey tax folks, I'm in a bit of a sticky situation with the IRS and hoping someone can help me out. I just received a notice that I'm being charged penalties for filing my 2023 taxes late and underpaying throughout the year. The penalties total about $750 which is a pretty big hit for me right now. I've been reading online and came across something called a "First Time Abatement" that the IRS offers. Apparently this can help get penalties waived if you've had a good history of filing and paying on time before this year? This would be my first offense in the 8 years I've been filing taxes. Has anyone successfully requested a First Time Abatement from the IRS? What's the process like? Do I need to call them or is there a form I need to fill out? I saw something about Form 843 but not sure if that's what I need. Also wondering what my chances are of actually getting this approved. Any advice or personal experiences would be super appreciated! I'm trying to get this sorted before the payment deadline next month.

Nina Chan

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Yes, you're on the right track with the First Time Abatement (FTA)! This is an administrative waiver the IRS offers to taxpayers who've generally had a clean compliance history. The good news is that since you've been filing and paying on time for the past 8 years, you're likely a perfect candidate. To request an FTA, you have a few options. The simplest is to call the IRS directly using the phone number on your notice. When you speak with a representative, specifically mention that you'd like to request a "First Time Abatement" for your penalties. They can often process this request right over the phone. Alternatively, you can submit a written request using Form 843 (Claim for Refund and Request for Abatement), but that typically takes longer to process. If you go the written route, be sure to clearly state you're requesting relief under the First Time Abatement policy and include your clean compliance history. The IRS typically looks for three years of compliance prior to the year you had the issue, so with 8 years of good history, you're well positioned. Success rates are quite high for legitimate first-time offenders.

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Ruby Knight

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Thanks for the detailed info! I'm wondering if it matters what reason I give for being late? I was going through a divorce and honestly just dropped the ball. Would the IRS consider that a reasonable cause or should I just stick with requesting the FTA without getting into personal details?

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Nina Chan

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For a First Time Abatement request, you actually don't need to provide a specific reason - the relief is based on your prior compliance history, not the circumstances of your current situation. The IRS grants FTAs regardless of why you were late, as long as you meet the clean compliance criteria for the three prior years. If the FTA gets denied for some reason, then you might want to pursue reasonable cause relief, where your divorce situation could be relevant. But I'd start with the FTA request since it's more straightforward and doesn't require explaining personal circumstances.

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Logan Stewart

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Does it work for business tax penalties too? My LLC got hit with a late filing penalty but we've never had issues before.

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Mikayla Brown

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How do you know this isn't just another scam? There are so many tax "help" services that end up charging more than the original penalty...

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Mikayla Brown

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Sean Matthews

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Ali Anderson

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Wait how does this even work? The IRS phone system is literally designed to be impenetrable. Do they have some special access or something?

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Zadie Patel

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Sean Matthews

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Zadie Patel

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Just wanted to share what happened with my own First Time Abatement request since it might help others. I didn't call or use any services - just sent in Form 843 with a simple letter explaining I had a clean compliance history and was requesting FTA. Sent it certified mail to make sure it was received. Took about 9 weeks but I got a letter back saying the penalties ($430) were removed. The whole process was pretty straightforward, just required patience waiting for the response. Make sure you keep making payments though while waiting for a decision if you can. Interest continues to accrue on the underlying tax even while the penalty abatement is being considered.

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Did you include any supporting documents with your Form 843? Or literally just the form and a letter?

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I just included the Form 843 and a one-page letter stating I was requesting First Time Abatement based on my clean compliance history. I didn't include any supporting documents because the IRS can see your filing and payment history in their system already. The key parts I made sure to include were my taxpayer information, the tax year and type of penalty I was requesting abatement for, and a clear statement that I was specifically requesting relief under the "First Time Abatement" administrative waiver policy. I kept it simple and straightforward, which seemed to work fine.

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Emma Morales

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Don't forget that even if you qualify for First Time Abatement, it only applies to certain penalties! It works for failure-to-file, failure-to-pay, and failure-to-deposit penalties. It won't help with accuracy-related penalties, fraud penalties, or estimated tax penalties. Also, it's a one-time deal for each type of penalty. So if you get the FTA for a failure-to-file penalty this year, you can't get another one for failure-to-file in the future. But you might still qualify for an FTA on a different type of penalty later.

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Well crap, I already used my FTA for a missed estimated tax payment in 2022. Does that mean I'm totally out of luck for getting my current late filing penalty removed?

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Pedro Sawyer

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Actually, you might still have options! First Time Abatement is available separately for different penalty types. So if you used FTA for an estimated tax penalty in 2022, you should still be eligible for FTA on failure-to-file or failure-to-pay penalties since those are different categories. The IRS tracks FTA usage by penalty type, not as a single overall benefit. So you could potentially get FTA relief for your current late filing penalty even though you used it for estimated tax penalties before. I'd definitely call or submit a request - worst case they say no, but there's a good chance you're still eligible for this different penalty type.

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Lauren Wood

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Douglas, you're definitely in a good position for First Time Abatement with 8 years of clean filing history! I successfully got my penalties waived last year using this exact process. Here's what worked for me: I called the IRS directly using the number on my penalty notice and specifically asked for "First Time Abatement relief." The rep was able to pull up my compliance history right there and approved the request on the spot. My $620 in penalties were removed immediately from my account. The key is being very clear about what you're requesting - don't just say you want penalty relief, specifically mention "First Time Abatement" or "FTA." The IRS reps are familiar with this program and can process it quickly if you qualify. Since you mentioned the payment deadline is next month, I'd recommend calling rather than mailing Form 843, as the written process can take 8-12 weeks. With your clean history, you should have no problem getting approved. Just be prepared for potentially long hold times when calling - early morning (8 AM EST) tends to be the best time to get through. Good luck! With your track record, this should be pretty straightforward.

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This is really encouraging to hear! Quick question - when you called, did they ask for any specific documentation or proof of your compliance history? I'm worried they might want me to provide copies of old returns or something I don't have readily available. Also, did you have to pay anything upfront while waiting for the decision, or were you able to hold off on the penalty portion?

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