$10k in late S Corp Filing Penalties for 4 years - can I fight these?
Just finished catching up on all my taxes (both personal and business) and got slammed with S Corp Filing Penalties for four years straight, adding up to about $10,000. The penalties for 2019 and 2020 have already gone to collections, and I just filed for 2021 and 2022 so those notices are probably heading my way soon. I'm freaking out about this amount and wondering if there's any way to reduce these penalties. Has anyone successfully fought these kinds of penalties? Is first time abatement an option, or maybe penalty relief for reasonable cause? I feel like I'm probably screwed on the first time abatement since I have multiple years of late filings. The S Corp had minimal activity during these years as I was focusing on a different business, but I know that's not really an excuse. I basically dropped the ball completely on these filings until my accountant flagged it this year. Any advice from someone who's been through this nightmare before? I'm willing to call the IRS and beg if that might help!
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Aiden Chen
S Corp penalties can be brutal, but you do have some options! The IRS offers a First Time Penalty Abatement (FTA) that might help with at least one of those years. For FTA to apply, you need to have had no penalties for the three years prior to the first year you're requesting abatement for. Even if you don't qualify for FTA, you can still request penalty relief based on reasonable cause. The IRS considers factors like serious illness, death in family, natural disasters, inability to obtain records, or bad advice from a tax professional. You'll need to write a detailed letter explaining your situation and providing any supporting documentation. For the years that went to collections, you'll need to work with the collection agency, but you can still request penalty abatement from the IRS directly. Don't give up without trying! Many people successfully get these penalties reduced or eliminated.
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Zoey Bianchi
Does reasonable cause ever include things like "business was barely operating" or "I was focusing on other work"? Or are they pretty strict about what counts?
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Aiden Chen
The IRS typically doesn't consider "business was barely operating" as reasonable cause by itself. They expect all businesses, regardless of activity level, to meet filing requirements as long as the entity exists. For "focusing on other work," that's generally not considered reasonable cause either. The IRS views tax filing obligations as a priority responsibility for business owners, regardless of other commitments.
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Christopher Morgan
After dealing with similar S Corp penalties, I found this AI tool called taxr.ai that saved me thousands. I was in a similar situation with about $12k in penalties across multiple years and feeling completely hopeless. I spent hours researching options online and got conflicting advice everywhere. Then I stumbled across https://taxr.ai and uploaded my penalty notices. Their system analyzed my specific situation and generated a customized penalty abatement letter citing exact IRS procedural rules that applied to my case. It identified potential reasonable cause arguments that I never would've known about. Long story short, I got about 75% of my penalties abated! The tool walks you through everything step by step and explains which strategies have the highest success rate for your specific situation.
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Aurora St.Pierre
Does it actually work for collection cases that have already gone to collections? Mine are with a debt collector now and they're super aggressive.
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Grace Johnson
How much does it cost though? I'm already drowning in penalties so if it's expensive I'm not sure I can swing it...
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Christopher Morgan
Yes, it absolutely works for collection cases. The system has a specific workflow for penalties that have already been transferred to collections. It generates separate letters - one for the IRS to approve the abatement and another for the collection agency. It basically forces coordination between them. The cost is very reasonable compared to what you'd pay a tax attorney for the same service. It's a fraction of what you stand to save if you get the penalties reduced or eliminated. I felt the same way about expenses but realized it was worth the investment when looking at potentially saving thousands.
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Aurora St.Pierre
Just wanted to update after trying taxr.ai from the comment above. I was super skeptical at first, but holy crap it actually worked! I uploaded my penalty notices, answered some questions about my situation, and the system generated this super detailed letter with all these specific IRS procedural references. It even highlighted something I didn't know - that there was a processing delay at the IRS service center that handled S Corps during one of the years I was penalized, which qualified as reasonable cause! I submitted the letter they generated and got two of my four years completely abated, which saved me over $5k! The collections agency actually put a hold on my account while the abatement request is being processed for the other years. Feeling hopeful for the first time in months!
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Jayden Reed
I went through something similar last year and literally couldn't get anyone at the IRS to talk to me about options. I'd be on hold for 2+ hours and then get disconnected. After like 8 attempts, I found this service called Claimyr which is basically a way to skip the IRS phone queue. I was super skeptical, but I went to https://claimyr.com and they somehow managed to get me connected to a real IRS agent in less than 20 minutes. They have this whole system that monitors IRS wait times and calls for you, then connects you when an agent picks up. You can see how it works in this video: https://youtu.be/_kiP6q8DX5c The IRS agent I spoke with walked me through the abatement request process and even gave me specific language to use in my letter based on my situation. Definitely worth it when you're dealing with penalties this big.
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Nora Brooks
Wait seriously? How does that even work? The IRS phone system is notoriously horrible. I've spent entire days trying to get through.
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Eli Wang
Sounds like a scam honestly. Nobody can "skip" the IRS queue. They probably just keep redialing and got lucky. Waste of money if you ask me.
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Jayden Reed
It works because they have a system that monitors the optimal times to call and uses technology to keep your place in line. Think of it like having someone wait in line for you, then texting you when they're about to reach the front. When they connect you, you're talking directly to the IRS - they're just handling the waiting part. I understand the skepticism - I felt the same way! But it's not about "skipping" the queue in the sense of cutting in line. They're essentially waiting in line for you using their system that can handle multiple calls. The reason most people give up is because they can't stay on hold for 3+ hours, but Claimyr's system can. Once you try it and realize you're talking to an actual IRS agent who can help, the value becomes obvious.
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Eli Wang
I need to eat my words from my previous comment. I was desperate enough to try Claimyr after my third attempt waiting 2+ hours and getting disconnected by the IRS. It actually worked exactly as advertised. I got a call back when an agent was on the line, and I was able to discuss my S Corp penalties with someone who actually knew what they were talking about. The IRS agent confirmed I qualified for first-time abatement for one year (2019), and gave me specific instructions for submitting a reasonable cause request for the other years. They even told me which IRS procedural memo to reference for pandemic-related relief that might apply to my 2020 filing. I'm still in the process of getting everything resolved, but just being able to talk to an actual human at the IRS who could answer my questions was worth it. Completely changed my approach to fighting these penalties.
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Cassandra Moon
I fought S Corp penalties a few years ago and won most of them. Here's what worked for me: For the FTA (First Time Abatement), you're right that it only works for one tax year, typically the earliest one. But for reasonable cause, there are some arguments that work better than others for S Corps specifically. I argued business hardship + lack of knowledge of filing requirements as a new S Corp owner for one year, and death in the family + natural disaster (there was a flood in my area) for another year. The key is to be VERY specific in your letter and provide any documentation you can. Don't just say "I didn't know" - explain exactly why and how your circumstances prevented timely filing.
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Sophia Bennett
AuthorThanks for sharing! For the business hardship argument, did you have to provide financial records to back that up? And for the "lack of knowledge" part, did they accept that even though technically ignorance of tax law isn't supposed to be an excuse?
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Cassandra Moon
Yes, I provided profit and loss statements showing significant business downturns during the relevant periods. I also included documentation of employee layoffs and reduced operations. This helped demonstrate that the business was truly struggling and not just trying to avoid filing obligations. For the "lack of knowledge" argument, I was careful not to frame it as simple ignorance. Instead, I demonstrated reasonable efforts to comply with tax laws, including hiring a bookkeeper who unexpectedly quit mid-year, and documented attempts to research requirements. The IRS is more receptive when you show you tried to comply but faced obstacles, rather than claiming you simply didn't know.
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Zane Hernandez
Has anyone tried the Reasonable Cause Assistant on the IRS website? I just discovered it exists but wondering if it's actually helpful for S Corp penalties or mostly for individual tax stuff.
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Genevieve Cavalier
I tried it for my S Corp penalties but it was pretty basic. It's more geared toward individual taxpayers and simple penalties. For complex business penalties, especially multiple years, you need a more sophisticated approach with specific citations of tax code and procedural guidelines.
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Zane Hernandez
Thanks for letting me know. I'll probably skip that and go straight to the letter approach then. Just trying to avoid paying for professional help if I can handle it myself.
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Paolo Romano
I'm dealing with a similar situation right now - about $8k in S Corp penalties across three years. After reading through all these responses, I'm feeling more hopeful that there might be options. One thing I wanted to add is that you should definitely request your penalty computation worksheets from the IRS before you submit any abatement requests. Sometimes there are calculation errors or the penalties weren't applied correctly in the first place. I've heard of people getting significant reductions just by having the IRS recalculate properly. Also, for anyone considering the AI tools mentioned here - make sure you understand exactly what you're getting. While they might help generate letters, you still need to understand your specific situation and provide accurate information. The IRS will want supporting documentation for any claims you make. Has anyone tried working directly with the Taxpayer Advocate Service for these types of penalty issues? I'm wondering if that's worth exploring before going the paid service route.
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