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Mia Alvarez

How to request abatement of penalty for late 1120S filing? S-corp relief options?

So I really messed up and need some advice. I'm part of a small S-corp (3 members total) that's been completely inactive since 2019. No business activity whatsoever. Last year I had a total brain malfunction and thought our 1120S for 2020 was due April 15th like regular personal taxes. Filled out a $0 income return (literally nothing to report) and dropped it in the mail thinking I was being responsible. Well, just opened a letter from the IRS and nearly had a heart attack - they're hitting us with a $1,670 penalty for filing late! The form was apparently due March 15th, not April. I called the number on the notice and asked if there was anything I could do. The agent mentioned something about requesting an abatement of the penalty, but I got disconnected before getting all the details. Has anyone successfully gotten these penalties removed? What's the best approach for requesting an abatement? This is a completely dead business with zero activity or income - seems crazy to pay almost $1,700 just because I mixed up the dates.

You definitely have options here! The IRS offers what's called "First-Time Penalty Abatement" for situations exactly like yours, especially since you have a clean compliance history (assuming you've filed and paid on time for the past 3 years). For inactive S-corps with zero activity, the IRS tends to be more understanding when there's an honest mistake. To request abatement, you'll need to write a letter referencing the notice number, explaining the reasonable cause (your confusion about deadlines for an inactive business), and explicitly requesting "First-Time Penalty Abatement" for the failure-to-file penalty. Include a statement that the business has been inactive since 2019, that you filed a zero-activity return, and that you misunderstood the S-corp filing deadline. Be sure to include copies of the notice and mail it to the address on the notice.

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Thanks for the detailed response! Quick question - should I call the IRS again first or just send the letter? Also, how long does the abatement process usually take? I'm worried about additional penalties accruing while I wait.

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I recommend both calling the IRS Practitioner Priority Service at 866-860-4259 and sending the written request. The call can sometimes resolve it immediately if you get a helpful representative, but always follow up with the written request for documentation purposes. The abatement process typically takes 30-60 days, but don't worry about additional penalties accruing during this time. Once you've submitted your request, note the date and if you don't hear back within 60 days, follow up with another call. Make sure to keep copies of everything you send them.

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Just wanted to add my experience - I got a similar penalty for late S-corp filing but for 2021. I wrote a detailed penalty abatement letter explaining that we'd had turnover in our accounting department and the deadline was missed during the transition. Don't forget to include the statement "We have a history of compliance and are requesting First Time Abatement under Internal Revenue Manual 20.1.1.3.3.2.1." The IRS approved it in about 6 weeks and removed the entire penalty. Just be sincere, to the point, and reference your previous good compliance history if applicable. It really does work!

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Did you include any supporting documentation with your letter or just the explanation itself? I'm trying to figure out if I need to gather old tax records to prove we've been compliant in the past.

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I just included the explanation itself along with a copy of the penalty notice. I didn't include any supporting documentation about past compliance - the IRS can see your filing history in their own systems. They just want to see that you're making a genuine request with a reasonable explanation. Keep your letter focused on the facts, be respectful, and make it clear that this was an honest mistake that you're taking steps to prevent in the future. In your case, mentioning it's an inactive business with zero income/activity is important since there was no tax impact to the Treasury.

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Has anyone actually tried filing Form 843 for this? The IRS website says that's the official form for requesting abatement of penalties. I'm dealing with the same issue and wondering if a letter or the actual form is better.

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I've done both ways for clients (I'm not a tax pro but handle admin for a small accounting firm). Form 843 is technically correct, but honestly, we've had better success with well-written letters specifically for S-corp late filing penalties. The form is more generic and doesn't give you as much space to explain your reasonable cause.

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I went through this exact same situation last year with my S-corp - missed the March 15th deadline thinking it was April 15th like everything else. The frustration is real, especially when it's a completely inactive business! I successfully got my $1,670 penalty completely abated by writing a straightforward letter explaining the reasonable cause. Key points I included: 1) The business has been inactive since 2019 with zero income/activity, 2) I confused the S-corp deadline with individual tax deadlines, 3) I requested "First Time Penalty Abatement" and cited my clean compliance history, 4) I emphasized there was no tax impact to the Treasury since it was a zero-dollar return. The IRS approved it in about 5 weeks. Don't let anyone tell you it's hopeless - they're actually pretty reasonable about honest mistakes, especially for inactive businesses. Just be clear, concise, and include a copy of the penalty notice with your letter. You've got this!

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This is really encouraging to hear from someone who went through the exact same situation! Quick question - when you wrote your letter, did you send it to the address on the penalty notice or is there a specific department for penalty abatements? Also, did you include any specific language about the "reasonable cause" or just explain the situation in your own words? I'm putting together my letter now and want to make sure I hit all the right points.

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@LunarLegend That's exactly the success story I needed to hear! I'm in the identical situation - inactive S-corp since 2019, mixed up the deadlines, and got hit with the same penalty amount. Did you mail your letter certified mail or just regular mail? And approximately how long was your letter - I'm trying to strike the right balance between being thorough and being concise. Also, did you mention anything about it being your first penalty or did you just focus on the reasonable cause explanation? Really appreciate you sharing your experience - it gives me hope that this nightmare might actually have a reasonable resolution!

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@LunarLegend I sent my letter to the address printed on the penalty notice - that's the most important thing. I used certified mail with return receipt just to have proof they received it, but regular mail should work fine too. My letter was about one page, maybe 250-300 words. I kept it focused and professional. For the reasonable cause language, I said something like "I am requesting penalty abatement based on reasonable cause as I genuinely confused the S-corporation filing deadline with individual tax return deadlines." Then I explained the situation in my own words. I did mention it was my first penalty and specifically requested "First Time Penalty Abatement" - that's actually a specific IRS program that's worth mentioning by name. The key is being honest about the mistake while showing you're normally compliant. Since you're in the identical situation, you should have a really good chance of success!

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I just went through this exact same penalty situation with my S-corp last month! Got hit with the $1,670 penalty for missing the March 15th deadline on what was essentially a zero-activity return. Here's what worked for me: I called the IRS business line (not the general number) at 800-829-4933 and spoke directly with someone in the business tax division. The agent was actually very helpful and walked me through the penalty abatement process over the phone. She explained that for inactive S-corps with zero income, they often approve reasonable cause abatements, especially if you have a clean filing history. The key phrase to use is "reasonable cause" - explain that you confused the S-corp deadline with individual tax deadlines, emphasize that the business has been inactive with no income or tax impact, and mention your history of timely filing (if applicable). The agent started the abatement process right there on the call and told me to expect a response in 4-6 weeks. I'd recommend calling that business line first before writing letters - sometimes they can resolve it immediately, and it's much faster than the mail process. Good luck!

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This is incredibly helpful! I've been dreading making that call because I assumed I'd be on hold forever, but it sounds like the business line might be more responsive than the general number. Quick question - when you called, did you need to have your penalty notice in front of you with specific numbers or codes? And did they ask for any documentation during the call, or was it all just verbal explanation of your situation? I'm planning to call tomorrow morning and want to make sure I have everything ready.

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I'm dealing with a very similar situation right now - inactive S-corp since 2018, filed our zero-activity 1120S about a month late because I also got confused about the March 15th vs April 15th deadlines. Just received my penalty notice yesterday and honestly had a mini panic attack seeing that $1,670 amount! Reading through everyone's experiences here is giving me so much hope. It sounds like the IRS is actually pretty reasonable about these situations when you explain the circumstances properly. I'm planning to try both approaches - call the business line that @Zoe mentioned (800-829-4933) first to see if they can handle it immediately, and then follow up with a written request if needed. One thing I'm curious about - for those who successfully got their penalties abated, did having an inactive business status make a difference in the IRS's decision? It seems like emphasizing the zero tax impact and inactive status might be important factors they consider. Thanks everyone for sharing your experiences - this community is incredibly helpful for navigating these stressful situations!

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@Santiago I can definitely relate to that panic attack feeling when you see that penalty amount! From everything I've read in this thread, having an inactive business status seems to be a major advantage when requesting penalty abatement. The IRS appears to be much more understanding when there's zero tax impact to the Treasury - basically, your late filing didn't cost them any lost revenue since there was no income to tax. Several people here mentioned specifically emphasizing the inactive status and zero-dollar impact in their requests, and it seems like that combination of factors (honest mistake about deadlines + inactive business + clean compliance history) creates a strong case for reasonable cause abatement. The fact that you filed the return (even though late) and it showed zero activity probably works in your favor too. I'd definitely try calling that business line first - it sounds like they can sometimes resolve these cases immediately over the phone when the circumstances are this straightforward. Good luck with your call!

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I've been reading through all these experiences and they're incredibly reassuring! I'm in a nearly identical situation - S-corp that's been dormant since 2020, filed our $0 return thinking the April 15th deadline applied, and just got slapped with the same $1,670 penalty. What's really encouraging is seeing how many people have successfully gotten these penalties abated, especially for inactive businesses. It seems like the combination of reasonable cause (deadline confusion), zero tax impact to the Treasury, and clean compliance history creates a strong case. I'm planning to follow the advice here and call that business line (800-829-4933) first, then send a written follow-up if needed. For anyone else in this boat, it's reassuring to know that the IRS seems to understand these are honest mistakes, especially when there's no actual tax revenue involved. Thanks to everyone who shared their success stories - it's transformed this from feeling like a hopeless situation to something very manageable!

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@Natalie I'm so glad this thread has been helpful for you! I was in the exact same boat a few months ago and honestly thought I was stuck paying that ridiculous penalty. What really struck me from everyone's experiences is how consistent the success stories are - it seems like the IRS genuinely recognizes that mixing up S-corp and individual filing deadlines is a common, understandable mistake. The key seems to be emphasizing that this was an honest error for an inactive business with zero tax impact. I'd definitely recommend having your penalty notice and basic business info ready when you call that business line. From what others have shared, the representatives on that line seem much more knowledgeable about these specific penalty situations than the general customer service line. It's amazing how much stress this community has helped alleviate - turning what felt like a financial disaster into a very solvable problem. Wishing you the best with your call!

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I just want to add another success story to hopefully help others in similar situations. I dealt with this exact same penalty last year - $1,670 for filing my inactive S-corp's 1120S about 3 weeks late because I thought the deadline was April 15th. After reading advice similar to what's been shared here, I called the IRS business line at 800-829-4933. The representative was surprisingly understanding and helpful. I explained that my S-corp had been completely inactive since 2019, that I confused the filing deadlines, and that the return showed zero income/activity. She immediately started the penalty abatement process over the phone and told me it qualified for "reasonable cause" relief. The whole call took about 20 minutes (including hold time), and I received a letter about 5 weeks later confirming the penalty was fully abated. The key points that seemed to matter most: 1) honest mistake about deadlines, 2) inactive business with no tax impact, 3) clean compliance history, and 4) the fact that I did actually file the return (just late). Don't let anyone tell you these penalties are impossible to get removed - the IRS is actually quite reasonable about genuine mistakes, especially for inactive businesses. Just be honest, professional, and emphasize the zero tax impact. You've got a very good chance of success!

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This is exactly what I needed to hear! I'm currently dealing with the same situation and have been putting off calling because I was worried about getting stuck in phone tree hell or dealing with an unhelpful representative. Your experience shows that calling that business line directly can actually be much more efficient than going through the written request process. The fact that they handled everything over the phone and you got confirmation in 5 weeks is really encouraging. I think what's most reassuring is how consistent all these success stories are - it seems like the IRS genuinely understands that deadline confusion for inactive S-corps is a legitimate reasonable cause, especially when there's zero tax revenue impact. I'm definitely calling that number tomorrow morning. Thanks for taking the time to share your positive outcome - it really helps reduce the anxiety around dealing with this penalty situation!

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I'm going through this exact same nightmare right now! Just got my penalty notice yesterday for $1,670 because I filed my inactive S-corp's 1120S in April instead of March. Like you, I had zero business activity to report but still got hammered with this massive penalty for a simple date mixup. Reading through everyone's success stories here is giving me so much hope though. It sounds like the IRS is actually pretty understanding about these situations, especially when you can show it was an honest mistake for an inactive business with zero tax impact. The fact that so many people have gotten these penalties completely abated is really encouraging. I'm planning to call that business line (800-829-4933) that several people mentioned first thing Monday morning. From what I'm seeing, emphasizing the reasonable cause (deadline confusion), inactive business status, and clean compliance history seems to be the winning combination. Thanks to everyone who shared their experiences - you've turned what felt like a hopeless situation into something very manageable. Will definitely update this thread with my results to help others in the same boat!

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@Jacinda I completely understand that nightmare feeling! I just went through this exact same situation a few months ago and felt the same panic when I opened that penalty notice. What really helped me was realizing from reading experiences like these that the IRS actually handles these cases pretty routinely and reasonably. The business line at 800-829-4933 really is your best bet for getting this resolved quickly. When you call, have your penalty notice handy and be ready to explain: 1) your business has been inactive since whenever, 2) you confused S-corp deadlines with individual tax deadlines, 3) the return showed zero income/activity, and 4) you're requesting reasonable cause penalty abatement. Most importantly, don't stress too much about it - based on all the success stories here, you have an excellent chance of getting this completely abated. The IRS seems to understand that deadline confusion for inactive businesses is a genuine mistake, especially when there's no tax revenue impact. Looking forward to hearing about your success!

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I'm dealing with almost the exact same situation right now - S-corp inactive since 2020, filed the zero-activity 1120S in April thinking it was due with personal taxes, and just received the dreaded $1,670 penalty notice. The panic is real! What's incredibly reassuring is seeing how many people in this thread have successfully gotten these penalties completely abated. It seems like the IRS genuinely recognizes that confusing S-corp deadlines with individual tax deadlines is a common, understandable mistake - especially for inactive businesses with zero tax impact. Based on all the advice here, I'm planning to call the business line at 800-829-4933 first to see if they can resolve it over the phone, then follow up with a written request if needed. The key points everyone mentioned - reasonable cause (deadline confusion), inactive business status, zero tax impact, and clean compliance history - seem to create a strong case for penalty abatement. Thanks to everyone who shared their success stories! You've transformed what felt like a financial disaster into a very manageable situation. I'll definitely update this thread with my results to help others facing the same issue.

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@Fatima I'm so glad you found this thread helpful! I was in your exact situation just a few months ago and felt that same panic when I opened the penalty notice. What really struck me reading through everyone's experiences is how consistently successful people have been with these penalty abatements for inactive S-corps. Your approach sounds perfect - calling that business line first is definitely the way to go since several people got it resolved immediately over the phone. When you call, make sure to emphasize that your business has been completely inactive since 2020 with zero income or activity, and that you genuinely confused the March 15th S-corp deadline with the April 15th individual deadline. The fact that there's no tax revenue impact to the Treasury seems to be a major factor they consider. I'd also recommend having your EIN and penalty notice number ready when you call. From what others have shared, the representatives on that business line are much more knowledgeable about these specific penalty situations than the general customer service line. Best of luck with your call - based on all these success stories, you should have an excellent chance of getting this completely resolved!

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I went through this exact situation with my S-corp last year and completely understand the panic you're feeling right now! That $1,670 penalty for what amounts to a calendar mix-up feels absolutely crushing, especially for a business with zero activity. Here's what worked for me: I wrote a concise but detailed letter explaining the reasonable cause - specifically that I confused the S-corp March 15th deadline with individual tax deadlines since the business had been completely inactive. I made sure to emphasize three key points: 1) the business has had zero income/activity since it went dormant, 2) there was no tax impact to the Treasury, and 3) I have a clean compliance history and was requesting First Time Penalty Abatement. The IRS approved my request in about 6 weeks and removed the entire penalty. What really seemed to matter was being honest about the mistake while showing that this was a genuine error for an inactive business, not tax avoidance. Don't lose hope - the IRS is actually quite reasonable about these situations when you can demonstrate reasonable cause. The fact that your business is truly inactive with zero dollars at stake works strongly in your favor. You've got this!

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@Tyrone This is incredibly reassuring! I'm in the exact same boat - S-corp dormant since 2019, mixed up the deadlines, and that $1,670 penalty felt like a punch to the gut. Your success story gives me so much hope that this isn't the end of the world. I really appreciate you breaking down the key points that seemed to matter most to the IRS. The emphasis on zero tax impact to the Treasury makes a lot of sense - they're not losing any actual revenue from our mistake, just dealing with paperwork filed a month late. Quick question - when you wrote your letter, did you send it to the address on the penalty notice, or is there a specific department for penalty abatements? Also, did you use any specific language or cite any IRS manual sections, or did you just explain everything in plain English? I want to make sure I hit all the right notes when I write mine. Thanks so much for sharing your positive outcome - it's exactly what I needed to hear to feel confident about moving forward with the abatement request!

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Liam Duke

I went through this exact same situation with my S-corp about 6 months ago - dormant since 2018, filed the zero-activity 1120S in April instead of March, and got hit with that same $1,670 penalty that makes your stomach drop. After reading through all the advice here, I decided to try both approaches: called the business line at 800-829-4933 first, then followed up with a written request. The phone call was surprisingly productive - the representative was knowledgeable and understanding about deadline confusion for inactive businesses. She started the penalty abatement process immediately and explained that cases like mine with zero tax impact are typically approved under reasonable cause relief. I also sent a follow-up letter to the address on my penalty notice, specifically mentioning "First Time Penalty Abatement" and emphasizing that my business had been completely inactive with no income or tax revenue impact to the Treasury. The combination approach seemed to work well - I received full penalty abatement confirmation about 7 weeks later. The key insight from my experience is that the IRS really does understand these are honest mistakes, especially when there's no actual tax avoidance involved. For inactive S-corps, the deadline confusion is incredibly common and they handle these cases routinely. Don't let the penalty amount scare you - with your circumstances (inactive business, zero activity, clean history), you have an excellent chance of success!

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@Liam Thank you so much for sharing your experience with the combination approach! I'm currently facing this exact situation - S-corp dormant since 2019, filed late thinking it was due April 15th, and just received that devastating $1,670 penalty notice. Your strategy of calling first AND following up with a written request seems really smart. It gives you the best of both worlds - potential immediate resolution over the phone, plus documentation in writing for your records. I'm curious about the timing - did you send the written letter right after your phone call, or did you wait to see if the phone call alone would resolve it? Also, when you mentioned "First Time Penalty Abatement" in your letter, did you need to provide any proof of your clean compliance history, or do they verify that internally? I want to make sure I include all the right elements when I write my follow-up letter. It's incredibly encouraging to hear about your success - transforming what felt like a financial nightmare into a completely resolved situation. Thanks for giving those of us in similar situations hope that there's light at the end of this tunnel!

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