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Elijah O'Reilly

Received IRS Notice CP162A - Need help with penalty options!

I just got an IRS Notice CP162A for "Failure to File Penalty" and I'm really freaking out about what to do next. Tax Period: 9/30/22 Amount Due: $2250.00 Notice Date: 5/12/23 So here's what happened - I filed my Partnership 1065 form on February 22, 2022, which was well before the deadline. I sent it through regular mail (USPS) but didn't get tracking on it (big mistake, I know). Just yesterday my aunt forwarded me this notice from my old address. I'm pretty sure the IRS never received my filing and it got lost somewhere in the mail system, but I have no official proof of mailing. I still have the original tax return saved on my laptop with a "last modified" date of 2/23/22. Some details that might be relevant: - I have the saved tax return with that February date - My credit card statement shows a USPS charge from the next day - I used H&R Block software to prepare the return - I marked this as a Final Return when I e-filed for 2022 tax year (did that in March 2023) - This is the first penalty I've ever received for this LLC - I've moved from the address where they sent the notice My financial situation is really tight right now. There's absolutely no way I can pay a $2250 penalty, especially since the return showed zero activity (the LLC has been inactive since 2020 and is now closed). The business has zero income, and I'm personally only making about $1800 a month while my expenses are around $2900. My boyfriend helps with the rest of our bills. I'm honestly terrified about what to do. If I have to pay this, I could end up without housing. Any advice would be so appreciated.

Amara Torres

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You have several good options here! The IRS has processes for situations exactly like yours where mail gets lost. First, call the IRS at the number on your notice and explain that you mailed your return before the deadline. Request first-time penalty abatement - the IRS often waives penalties for taxpayers with clean compliance history, which you mentioned you have. If they won't grant that, file Form 843 "Claim for Refund and Request for Abatement" and attach any evidence you have showing you tried to file on time - your saved return with the February date and the credit card statement showing a USPS charge are both helpful supporting documents. Another option is to request a Collection Due Process hearing using Form 12153, which puts collections on hold and lets you dispute the penalty through a different IRS channel. Since you marked the 2022 return as "Final," that helps your case too because it shows consistency with what you're saying about the business being inactive. Don't panic about becoming homeless - the IRS has hardship programs and payment plans. They can put your account in Currently Not Collectible status if you truly can't pay.

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Thanks so much for these options! I had no idea about first-time penalty abatement. So I just call the number and ask for this specifically? Do I need to prepare any documentation before making the call? Also, with Form 843, do I need to include a written letter explaining my situation or just fill out the form and attach my evidence?

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Amara Torres

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You should call and specifically ask for "first-time penalty abatement" or "FTA" - the IRS representative will know what you mean. Have your notice handy with the tax ID number and notice details, but you don't need special documentation for the call. They can check your history in their system. For Form 843, definitely include a clear statement explaining your situation. Complete all parts of the form, and in Section 5a, check "reasonable cause" and explain you mailed the return on time but it wasn't received. Attach copies (not originals) of your saved return showing the February date and your credit card statement. Be specific about dates and what happened.

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Another option nobody mentioned - if you have proof you tried to file (like that USPS receipt and dated return), you can request abatement due to "reasonable cause" not just first-time abatement. Explain that you took reasonable steps to comply with filing requirements. The IRS actually has a specific reasonable cause category for "issues with mail and delivery" - I successfully used this when USPS lost my return last year. Submit a brief, clear letter explaining exactly what happened, include copies of your dated return and postal receipt, and cite "reasonable cause due to mail delivery issues beyond taxpayer control." This approach can work even if you're not eligible for first-time abatement for some reason.

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Does reasonable cause work better than first-time abatement? I've heard mixed things about which approach to try first.

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First-time abatement is usually easier to get since it's more of an administrative process - they just check if you qualify based on your history. Reasonable cause requires more subjective evaluation by the IRS, but it can be more powerful for your specific situation. I usually recommend trying first-time abatement first if you qualify since it's simpler. If denied, then try reasonable cause with your evidence. The good news is that requesting one doesn't prevent you from requesting the other if needed. Your situation with mail evidence sounds strong for reasonable cause if first-time abatement somehow doesn't work out.

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Grace Lee

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Random tip - make sure when you contact the IRS you update your address with them! Since you mentioned you moved and they're sending notices to your old address, you need to file Form 8822 immediately to update your address. If you don't, you might miss future notices or deadlines even if you resolve this current issue. The IRS will keep sending mail to your last known address until you officially notify them of the change.

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Good point! I completely forgot about updating my address. Will that form take care of it for both my personal and business addresses? The LLC is closed now but I still want to make sure I get any future correspondence.

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I went through almost the exact same situation with my LLC last year - CP162A notice, lost mail, tight finances, the whole nightmare. Here's what worked for me: 1. **Call immediately** - Don't wait. Use the number on your notice and ask specifically for "first-time penalty abatement" or "FTA". Have your notice and EIN ready. The rep can see your clean compliance history instantly. 2. **Document everything** - That saved return with the February date and your credit card statement showing the USPS charge are actually solid evidence. Print them out and keep copies handy. 3. **Currently Not Collectible status** - Since you mentioned your income vs expenses ($1800 vs $2900), you likely qualify for "Currently Not Collectible" status. This stops all collection activity while you're experiencing financial hardship. Ask about this on your call. 4. **Don't panic about housing** - The IRS won't make you homeless over this. They have hardship protections and you have legitimate grounds for abatement. I got my $1,950 penalty completely removed using first-time abatement. The call took about 45 minutes total, and I received confirmation by mail two weeks later. Your situation sounds even stronger than mine was since you have that postal receipt evidence. You've got this! The IRS deals with lost mail situations constantly - it's not as uncommon as you'd think.

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