Help with IRS Notice of Federal Tax Lien - Small Amount but Urgent Situation
I'm seriously freaking out and need some advice ASAP. Back in July, I finally filed my 2019 tax return that I should have done years ago. I was doing gig work that year and only made about $5,500, but stupidly thought I didn't need to file since it was so little. When I realized my mistake, I filed and immediately sent a payment for the $650 I owed. Around September, I started getting notices saying I still owed about $1,100 in taxes and penalties for 2019. I called the IRS and found out they accidentally applied my payment to 2023 instead of 2019! The agent said they'd transfer it and suggested I wait for a new notice that would show just penalties and interest before requesting a first-time abatement. I waited and got the SAME $1,100 bill again. Called back, they claimed my payment was being processed and to just wait for an updated notice. Finally got the correct notice a month later showing I owed about $400, but honestly I got distracted with job hunting and forgot to deal with it. I just started a new job two weeks ago and today found a slip saying I have a certified letter waiting at the post office. Has to be from the IRS, right? But I can't get it until Saturday because my work hours overlap with post office hours. I checked my IRS account online and there's a warning that my account is "in jeopardy of lien or levy" - over just $400! I tried setting up a payment plan online but couldn't get it to work. Should I just put the whole thing on my credit card even though I'm broke? I was unemployed for 4 months and don't get my first paycheck until next week. This $400 is a ton of money to me right now, but I'm terrified of a tax lien! What should I do?
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Nia Thompson
First of all, take a deep breath! A Notice of Federal Tax Lien is serious, but you're catching this before they've actually filed the lien, which is good news. The certified letter is likely a Letter 3172, which is a "Notice of Federal Tax Lien Filing and Your Right to a Hearing." This is usually their final warning before actually filing a lien against you. Since you're already aware of the situation and trying to resolve it, you're on the right track. For a relatively small amount like $400, here are your options: Call the IRS first thing tomorrow morning at 800-829-1040. Explain your situation – that you've just started a new job, your payment was misapplied, and you want to resolve this before a lien is filed. They can often put a temporary hold on collection activities while you work out a solution. If you can't put it on a credit card, request a short-term payment plan (120 days) over the phone. For amounts under $50,000, this is usually approved without much hassle. There's no setup fee for short-term plans, and you'd just need to pay it off when you start receiving paychecks. You can also request a first-time penalty abatement when you call, which could significantly reduce what you owe. Be sure to mention your good filing history before this incident.
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Mateo Rodriguez
•Does the IRS actually file liens for amounts that small? I've only ever heard of them doing this for thousands of dollars in back taxes. Seems excessive for $400.
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Nia Thompson
•The IRS generally prioritizes larger debts for lien filing, but technically they can file a lien for any unpaid amount after they've sent notices and given you time to respond. For smaller amounts like $400, they often won't immediately file a lien, but if the debt has been outstanding for a while and they've sent multiple notices, they may proceed with a lien filing. It does seem excessive for such a small amount, which is why calling them immediately is so important. Most IRS agents are reasonable and will work with you on a payment arrangement rather than jumping straight to a lien, especially when you're proactively trying to resolve the issue.
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Aisha Abdullah
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Ethan Wilson
•Does it actually work with lien notices specifically? I've used other tax help sites before and they were pretty generic. Also, do you need to give them your SSN or personal info? Always sketchy about putting tax docs online.
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NeonNova
•I'm curious - did it help you get the lien removed after it was filed? Or just help with understanding the notice? My brother has a lien from 3 years ago that's still causing problems with his credit.
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Aisha Abdullah
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NeonNova
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Yuki Tanaka
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Carmen Diaz
•How exactly does this work? Do they actually call the IRS for you? Sounds kinda sketchy tbh. And how would they know what I'm calling about or have my tax info?
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Andre Laurent
•Yeah right. Nothing can get you through to the IRS faster. Those wait times are by design. Sounds like someone's trying to make a quick buck off people's desperation. If this actually worked, everyone would be using it.
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Yuki Tanaka
•They don't call on your behalf - they navigate the IRS phone tree and wait on hold, then when they reach a human, they immediately conference you into the call. You do all the talking and handle your personal info yourself. They don't need or ask for any of your tax information. Think of it like a smart call system that navigates the IRS menu options and waits on hold so you don't have to. Once they reach a person, you get a call, and you're connected directly to the IRS agent. I was connected in about 45 minutes when I had previously spent 3+ hours trying to get through on my own without success. Totally get the skepticism - I felt the same way! But it's actually a pretty straightforward service. They're just solving the "sitting on hold for hours" problem, not handling any of your tax information or speaking to the IRS for you. When the pandemic hit and IRS wait times went through the roof, this service became super valuable.
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Andre Laurent
OK I need to publicly admit I was completely wrong about Claimyr. After posting my skeptical comment, I decided to try it myself since I've been trying to reach the IRS for WEEKS about an incorrect tax bill. I've literally wasted entire afternoons on hold only to get disconnected. Used Claimyr yesterday and got connected to an IRS agent in 37 minutes without having to sit by my phone the whole time. The agent was able to confirm my payment had been received but misapplied (similar to OP's situation). They fixed it while I was on the phone and I got email confirmation this morning that my account is clear now. Would have taken me another month of trying to call them myself. Consider me converted - absolutely worth it when you're dealing with urgent tax issues like a potential lien.
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Emily Jackson
If you can't wait to get the certified letter, you might want to check if your post office offers "informed delivery" which lets you see scanned images of your mail online. Might at least let you confirm if it's from the IRS before you panic too much. Also, if you're really tight on money, call the Taxpayer Advocate Service at 877-777-4778. They can sometimes intervene in hardship cases, especially if you're at risk of not being able to afford basic living expenses because of the tax debt. They're separate from regular IRS collections and can sometimes be more helpful.
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Luca Esposito
•I didn't know about Informed Delivery! Just checked and my post office does offer it, but it takes a few days to set up so probably won't help with this letter. But thanks for the TAS number - I'll definitely call them if I can't work something out with the regular IRS line. I'm definitely in hardship territory right now, so maybe they can help me out.
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Liam Mendez
One thing I learned when dealing with a tax lien - DON'T ignore that certified letter! The clock on your appeal rights starts ticking from when they ATTEMPT delivery, not when you actually get it. I think you have 30 days to request a Collection Due Process hearing, which can stop the lien while you work things out. Also, if you get the lien notice and then pay in full, make sure to specifically request a lien WITHDRAWAL not just a release. A release just shows it's paid but stays on your credit report, a withdrawal makes it like it never existed. Huge difference for your credit score!
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Sophia Nguyen
•Is this true about the appeal clock starting at attempted delivery? That seems really unfair. What if you're on vacation or something? How would you even know they tried to deliver it?
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