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How to properly deduct a $90,000 SUV as a business expense with changing tax rules for 2025

I'm trying to figure out the right way to handle depreciating a vehicle for my business and getting confused by all the changing tax rules. Even after going through IRS publications, I still can't find a clear answer for my specific situation. Here's my scenario - I'm planning to buy a $115,000 SUV with a GVWR over 6,000 lbs (not a truck or van) and will use it 100% for business purposes. From what I understand, this wouldn't qualify for Section 179 deduction so I can't do the 80% deduction in year 1. However, it seems I'd qualify for the bonus depreciation of around $28,700 for the first year. Where I'm getting stuck is figuring out how much I can depreciate over the remaining life of the vehicle. I've seen there are annual limits for passenger vehicles in years 2-5 that would add up to roughly another $35k in deductions. If that's true, does it mean I'll never be able to fully depreciate the entire purchase price? Also considering the leasing route - if I lease instead of buying, are there any limits to how much of the lease payments I can deduct as a business expense?

You've got a complex but common question here. The rules for vehicle depreciation can definitely be confusing, especially with the heavy SUV category. For your $115,000 SUV over 6,000 lbs GVWR, you're right that it doesn't qualify for full Section 179 expensing. However, you do qualify for bonus depreciation in the first year. For 2025, you can take a first-year deduction of approximately $28,800. For the remaining years, you would use regular MACRS depreciation over a 5-year recovery period. The annual limits for luxury passenger vehicles don't apply to vehicles over 6,000 lbs GVWR, which is good news for you. This means you can depreciate the remaining value (purchase price minus the bonus depreciation) over the 5-year period following the standard percentages. As for leasing, if you lease instead, you can generally deduct the entire lease payment as a business expense if the vehicle is used 100% for business. However, you might have to add back a small "inclusion amount" to your income for vehicles over a certain value threshold, which would likely apply to your $115k SUV.

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Thanks for the explanation! I'm in a similar situation but my SUV is only used about 80% for business. How would that affect the depreciation calculations? Also, does bonus depreciation change for 2025 compared to previous years? I heard something about it phasing out.

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If you're using the vehicle 80% for business, you would simply take 80% of all the deductions I mentioned. So you could take 80% of the bonus depreciation in year one, and then 80% of the regular MACRS depreciation in subsequent years. Regarding bonus depreciation for 2025, yes, there have been changes. Bonus depreciation has been phasing down - it was 100% for several years, then 80% for 2023, 60% for 2024, and will be 40% for 2025 purchases. This reduction affects the amount you can deduct in the first year, but the good news is you can still claim the remaining depreciation over the regular recovery period.

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One thing nobody's mentioned yet is that you should really consider the impact of recapture if you sell the vehicle before it's fully depreciated. I learned this the hard way. I deducted a $85k SUV for my real estate business, took all the allowable depreciation, then sold it after 3 years for $65k. Had to report a significant portion as ordinary income due to depreciation recapture, which meant paying at my regular tax rate instead of capital gains rate. Completely destroyed my tax planning for that year. Make sure you're planning to keep the vehicle long-term if you're going for aggressive depreciation strategies.

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Is recapture still an issue if you trade the vehicle in for another business vehicle instead of selling it outright? I've heard there might be a way to defer the tax hit that way.

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Trading in the vehicle for another business vehicle can potentially help defer the tax hit through a like-kind exchange. However, the tax law changes in recent years have limited like-kind exchanges to real property only (land, buildings), not personal property like vehicles. So unfortunately, even with a trade-in, you'll likely face recapture taxes on the depreciation you've claimed when you dispose of a business vehicle. That's why I recommend being really strategic about how aggressively you depreciate vehicles, especially expensive ones that you might not keep for their full useful life.

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Has anyone considered the impact of the Clean Vehicle Credit if buying an electric SUV? I'm looking at a $110k electric SUV that qualifies as a heavy vehicle (over 6,000 lbs) AND potentially for the business clean vehicle credit. Seems like you might be able to stack that credit with the bonus depreciation for an even better tax situation in year 1.

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Look into whether your specific electric SUV model qualifies under the new requirements. There are price caps ($80k for SUVs) and manufacturing requirements that might disqualify some higher-end models. But if you qualify, it's huge - could be up to $7,500 tax credit on top of the depreciation benefits. Check out the IRS's qualified vehicle list before making a purchase.

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Thanks for the heads up about the price cap! I didn't realize there was an $80k limit for the credit on SUVs. I'll check the qualified vehicle list. My vehicle is manufactured in North America which I think is one of the requirements, but I need to look into the battery component requirements too.

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Great discussion here! I wanted to add some important context about the IRS mileage method vs. actual expense method for those considering their options. If you're buying a $115k SUV and using it 100% for business, you have two choices: claim actual expenses (including depreciation as discussed above) or use the standard mileage rate. For 2025, the business mileage rate is 70 cents per mile. Here's the key thing many people miss - once you choose the actual expense method in the first year (which includes depreciation), you're locked into that method for the life of the vehicle. You can't switch to mileage later if it becomes more advantageous. However, if you start with the mileage method, you can potentially switch to actual expenses in later years. Given the high purchase price of your SUV, actual expenses will almost certainly be better in year 1, but it's worth running the numbers to see your total deductions over the vehicle's useful life. Also, don't forget that with the actual expense method, you can deduct other vehicle expenses like insurance, maintenance, repairs, registration fees, etc. - not just depreciation. This often makes the actual expense method even more valuable for expensive business vehicles.

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This is really helpful context about the method choice! I'm new to business vehicle deductions and didn't realize you get locked into the actual expense method once you choose it. For someone just starting a business with a high-value vehicle like this, would you recommend always going with actual expenses from day one? Also, when you mention "other vehicle expenses" - does that include things like car washes and detailing if it's 100% business use?

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