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Emma Davis

Need advice on writing off a car purchase for my small business - tax implications?

Hey everyone, I'm looking for some tax guidance regarding vehicle deductions for our small business. We have an LLC that's been operational for about 3 years now, and every year we've taken the standard mileage deduction on our vehicles. I'm now planning to purchase a new vehicle in November and I'm trying to understand the tax implications. If I buy a vehicle that weighs over 6000lbs and use Section 179 to write off the entire purchase, do I lose the standard mileage deductions I've already accumulated this year? And once I take this route, am I locked into using actual expenses method for as long as I own the vehicle? For vehicles weighing under 6000lbs, I'm wondering what portion of the purchase price is actually deductible under current tax rules. Another scenario I'm considering - what are the tax implications if I decide to sell the vehicle next year? Is there some sort of recapture rule? What prevents business owners from buying a new vehicle every year, writing it off, then selling it and repeating the process? Any insights would be greatly appreciated! Tax season is coming up fast and I want to make the right decision.

CosmicCaptain

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The standard mileage vs. actual expenses decision is a common dilemma for business owners! Here's how it works: If you purchase a vehicle over 6000lbs (SUVs, larger trucks), you can potentially use Section 179 to deduct the full business-use portion up to the current limits (which is $1,160,000 for 2023, but confirm 2024 limits). However, there's a catch - once you use actual expenses for a vehicle, you can't switch back to standard mileage later for that same vehicle. Yes, you would lose the ability to claim standard mileage for that specific vehicle going forward. For the current year, you'd calculate standard mileage up until purchase date, then switch to actual expenses for the remainder of the year. For vehicles under 6000lbs, Section 179 is still available, but there are lower limits (around $19,200 for 2023) plus bonus depreciation depending on business-use percentage. If you sell the vehicle after taking depreciation/Section 179, you'll likely face depreciation recapture, which means you might have to report the gain as ordinary income if you sell for more than the depreciated value. This is precisely why there's no free lunch with buying/selling vehicles annually - the recapture rules prevent that strategy from being beneficial.

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Malik Johnson

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So if I take the Section 179 deduction on a vehicle over 6000lbs, but only use it 80% for business, can I only deduct 80% of the purchase price? And does that mean I need to track all expenses like gas, insurance, maintenance, etc. going forward instead of just tracking mileage?

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CosmicCaptain

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You're absolutely right - you can only deduct the business-use percentage, so if you use it 80% for business, you can only deduct 80% of the purchase price under Section 179. Yes, once you choose the actual expense method for that specific vehicle, you'll need to track all vehicle expenses (fuel, insurance, repairs, maintenance, etc.) and multiply those expenses by your business-use percentage to determine your deduction. You'll also claim depreciation for the business portion of the vehicle. It requires more record-keeping than the standard mileage method.

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Diego Rojas

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One thing nobody's mentioned yet - don't forget about state tax implications when deducting vehicles! I'm in California, and we have different rules that don't fully conform to federal Section 179 limits. Got hit with a surprise state tax bill because I didn't realize this. In some states, you might get the full federal deduction but then have to add back a portion on your state return. Worth checking your specific state rules before making a decision based solely on federal tax benefits.

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Do you happen to know how New York handles this? I'm planning to buy a RAM 2500 for my landscaping business but haven't considered state tax differences.

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Diego Rojas

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New York partially conforms to federal Section 179 but has a lower limit - I believe it's currently around $25,000 compared to the federal $1,160,000. This means if you deduct the full amount of your RAM 2500 federally (assuming it's over 6000lbs), you'll likely have to add back the difference between the federal deduction and NY's lower limit on your state return. I'd suggest talking to a NY-specific tax pro, but definitely budget for potentially higher state taxes than what your federal calculations might suggest. The state differences caught me off guard and I ended up owing an additional $3,200 to California that I hadn't planned for.

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Has anyone successfully used the de minimis safe harbor election ($2,500 per item) for vehicle additions/accessories instead of capitalizing them with the vehicle? My accountant mentioned this might be an option for some less expensive add-ons to my business truck.

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Zara Ahmed

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I've done this! Added a specialized toolbox system to my work truck that cost $2,100 and was able to deduct it immediately under de minimis rather than depreciating it with the truck. The key is making sure the accessory has its own invoice/receipt separate from the vehicle purchase. Also, you need to have an accounting policy in place that specifies your de minimis threshold.

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Great discussion everyone! As someone who's been through this decision multiple times with different vehicles, I'd add one important consideration that hasn't been fully addressed - the timing of your purchase matters significantly for Section 179. If you buy in November as planned, you can still claim the full Section 179 deduction for that tax year, even though you only owned it for 2 months. However, make sure you have adequate taxable income to absorb the deduction - Section 179 can't create a loss, it can only reduce your taxable income to zero. Also, for the recapture question - yes, if you sell within the depreciation period, you'll face recapture on the excess of sale price over your adjusted basis. But here's something many miss: the recapture is limited to the total depreciation/Section 179 you actually claimed. So if you took a $50,000 Section 179 deduction and sell for $45,000, you'd have $45,000 of recapture income, not $50,000. One strategy I've seen work well is keeping detailed mileage logs for the first year with any new vehicle, regardless of which method you choose initially. This gives you actual data to make a more informed decision for future tax years (though remember, you can't switch back to mileage once you've used actual expenses for that specific vehicle).

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