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Aisha Jackson

Seeking Advice on Section 179 Deduction for Vehicle Purchase (2024)

I run a small sole proprietorship and looks like I'm gonna have a pretty big tax bill for 2023. Trying to be smarter about taxes this year. I've been looking into Section 179 to possibly write off a vehicle purchase to help with my tax situation for 2024. From what I understand, you can deduct up to 60% of a vehicle weighing over 6,000 lbs in the first year you buy it. But I'm confused about how exactly this works. Does the amount I can write off have to be less than what I would owe in taxes? Also, are there any gotchas or things I should watch out for with Section 179 deductions? I don't want to make a big purchase and then find out I screwed something up with the tax benefits. If anyone has done this before or knows the details about deducting a vehicle purchase under Section 179, I'd really appreciate hearing your experience! Thanks for any help you can give me!

Section 179 is actually pretty straightforward but there are some things you should understand before making a purchase decision. The 60% first-year depreciation you're referring to is for vehicles over 6,000 lbs GVWR (gross vehicle weight rating) that qualify as SUVs, trucks, or vans used primarily for business. For 2024, you can deduct up to $1,160,000 under Section 179 (subject to phase-out thresholds), but there's a special limitation for SUVs over 6,000 lbs - the maximum deduction is $28,900 for 2024. For vehicles under 6,000 lbs, the limits are much lower. The Section 179 deduction isn't limited by your tax liability - it's limited by your business income. You can't use Section 179 to create a loss for your business. So if your business has $50,000 in profit before the deduction, you can take up to $50,000 in Section 179 deductions. Just remember you need to use the vehicle for business at least 50% of the time. If you use it 60% for business, you can only deduct 60% of the cost under Section 179.

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Lilly Curtis

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What happens if I take the Section 179 deduction but then end up using the vehicle more for personal use than business in future years? Does the IRS make you pay back some of the deduction?

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If you take a Section 179 deduction and later start using the vehicle more for personal use than business (less than 50% business use), the IRS calls this a "recapture" situation. You'll need to report and pay back a portion of the deduction you already took. The amount you need to pay back depends on how long you've owned the vehicle and how much the business use percentage has changed. The recapture is reported on Form 4797. This is definitely something to keep in mind before taking a large deduction - you need to be reasonably confident you'll maintain that business use percentage.

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Does the taxr.ai thing tell you what kind of documentation you need to keep to prove business use? I heard you need to keep a mileage log but I'm not sure what else the IRS expects.

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Saleem Vaziri

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I'm kinda skeptical about these online tax tools. How is this different from just talking to a CPA? And does it actually give you specific advice for your situation or just general info you could find on the IRS website?

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Leo Simmons

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The tool actually does give you specifics about required documentation - it recommended I keep a detailed mileage log with dates, destinations, and business purpose, plus suggested an app to make this easier. It also advised keeping receipts for all vehicle expenses and explained how to properly categorize them. It's different from a CPA consultation because it's available 24/7 and gives you specific guidance based on your documents and situation without the hourly billing. It's more like having a tax expert analyze your specific scenario rather than just general IRS info. It pointed out that in my case, since I have a home office, I needed to be extra careful about documenting the business purpose of each trip to avoid commuting disallowances.

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Saleem Vaziri

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Don't forget to check with your state tax rules too! I did a Section 179 deduction for my business vehicle last year (a heavy SUV), and while it worked great for federal taxes, my state (California) doesn't fully conform to the federal Section 179 limits. Had to depreciate part of it differently on my state return. Also, make sure you're aware of the "luxury auto limits" that apply to vehicles under 6,000 lbs. That's why so many business owners go for the larger SUVs and trucks - the deduction limits are much higher.

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Cole Roush

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Can you still take section 179 if you finance the vehicle instead of paying cash? My business doesn't have enough cash on hand to buy outright but I could definitely handle monthly payments.

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Yes, you can absolutely take Section 179 on a financed vehicle. The IRS considers it "placed in service" when you start using it for business, not when you finish paying for it. You can deduct the full eligible amount in year one even if you've only made a few payments. Just remember that you're still paying off the loan in later years even after you've taken the tax deduction. So it's important to factor that into your cash flow planning. Also, only the principal portion of your payments is part of the cost basis for the vehicle - the interest is a separate business expense that you deduct as you pay it.

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Anyone know if leasing is better than buying for tax purposes? I've heard conflicting things.

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Arnav Bengali

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I've done both and it really depends on your specific situation. When you lease, you can deduct the actual lease payments as a business expense based on your business use percentage. You don't get Section 179 or depreciation because you don't own the vehicle. When you buy, you get bigger deductions upfront with Section 179 or bonus depreciation, but smaller deductions in later years. Generally, buying is better if you plan to keep the vehicle for a long time and use it mostly for business. Leasing can be better if you want a new vehicle every few years or if your business income isn't high enough to fully utilize Section 179.

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Emma Davis

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One thing I don't see mentioned here is the importance of proper business purpose documentation. I made the mistake of thinking a basic mileage log was enough, but during an audit the IRS wanted to see detailed records of WHY each trip was business-related, not just where I went. For Section 179 vehicle deductions, you need to be extra careful about proving legitimate business use. I started keeping a simple voice memo app on my phone to record the business purpose of each trip right when it happens - "visiting client Johnson to review quarterly reports" or "picking up supplies for the Peterson project." Takes 5 seconds but creates a contemporaneous record that's much more defensible than trying to recreate it later. Also, don't forget that if you're using the vehicle for both business and personal use, you need to track EVERYTHING - not just the business trips. The IRS will want to see your total mileage to verify your business use percentage is accurate.

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Eli Butler

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This is such great advice about the voice memos! I've been using a basic mileage tracking app but never thought about documenting the actual business purpose in real time. I can definitely see how "drove to downtown" wouldn't hold up well compared to "met with potential client Sarah Chen to discuss website redesign project." Quick question - do you think it matters if you use a voice memo app vs just typing notes? I'm wondering if the IRS has any preference for one type of contemporaneous record over another, or if they just care that it was documented at the time of the trip rather than reconstructed later.

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