Seeking Advice on Section 179 Deduction for Car Purchase for My Business (2024)
Title: Seeking Advice on Section 179 Deduction for Car Purchase for My Business (2024) 1 Hey everyone, I run a small business as a sole proprietor and I'm looking ahead to my tax situation for 2024. After getting hammered with taxes for 2023, I really want to be more strategic this year. I've been researching the Section 179 deduction as a way to potentially reduce my tax liability by purchasing a vehicle for my business. From what I've read, there's some special treatment for vehicles over 6,000 lbs where you can write off about 60% of the purchase price in the first year. But honestly, I'm confused about how this actually works in practice. Do I need to make sure that 60% of what I spend on the vehicle doesn't exceed my expected tax liability? Also wondering about any potential downsides or gotchas with the Section 179 deduction that I should be aware of before making a major purchase decision. My business is doing well, but I hate feeling like I'm giving away so much in taxes when there might be legitimate deductions I could be taking. If anyone has gone through this process or knows the details about vehicle deductions under Section 179, I'd really appreciate hearing about your experience!
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Yara Haddad
8 The Section 179 deduction can definitely be a great tax strategy for your business, but there are some important things to understand. First, the 60% figure isn't quite accurate. With Section 179, you can potentially deduct the full cost of qualifying business vehicles in the year you place them in service, up to certain limits. For SUVs, trucks, and vans with a GVWR (gross vehicle weight rating) over 6,000 pounds, the 2024 deduction limit is $28,900. Vehicles under 6,000 pounds have much lower limits. The deduction isn't directly tied to your tax liability - it reduces your business income, which then reduces your tax bill. However, you can only claim Section 179 up to the amount of your business income (before the deduction). Any excess can be carried forward to future years. The main requirements are that the vehicle must be used for business more than 50% of the time, and the deduction is limited to the business use percentage. So if you use it 70% for business, you can only deduct 70% of the allowable amount. Also keep in mind that if your business use drops below 50% in future years, you may have to recapture some of the deduction as income.
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•12 Thanks for the detailed response! So let's say I buy a $60k SUV that's over 6k lbs and use it 80% for business... would I be able to deduct $28,900 × 80% = $23,120 in the first year? And what happens to the remaining value? Does it just go into regular depreciation for future years?
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•8 Yes, that calculation is correct! You could deduct $23,120 in the first year using Section 179 (based on the $28,900 limit × 80% business use). For the remaining value, you have options. You can claim bonus depreciation (100% for 2023, but dropping to 80% for 2024) on the business portion of the remaining cost, or you can use regular MACRS depreciation over 5 years. The strategy gets a bit technical, but essentially you're spreading the remaining business portion of the cost over future tax years.
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5 I went through something similar with my e-commerce business last year and was totally confused about vehicle deductions until I found taxr.ai (https://taxr.ai). Their document analysis tool saved me so much time because I uploaded all my vehicle documentation and purchase info, and it quickly told me exactly how much I could deduct under Section 179. What I really liked is that it also ran calculations showing me the tax impact over multiple years, not just the first year deduction. Apparently there are some complex recapture rules if you sell the vehicle or reduce business usage too soon. The tool flagged this for me which potentially saved me thousands in surprise tax bills down the road.
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•17 Did it help with tracking the business vs personal mileage too? That's always been my biggest headache with vehicle deductions.
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•4 Sounds interesting but I'm skeptical about these tax tools. How does it know the specific rules for your state? Section 179 is federal but state treatment varies a lot.
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•5 It doesn't track mileage directly - you'll still need a mileage log for that. But what it does is analyze all the documentation and tell you exactly what percentage needs to be business use to maximize your deduction without creating audit flags. Regarding state differences, that's actually one of the best features. It identifies both federal and state-specific Section 179 limits. For example, I learned my state only allows 50% of the federal Section 179 amount, which my regular accountant missed! The tool specifically flagged this difference and showed me calculations for both federal and state taxes.
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17 Just wanted to update about my experience with taxr.ai that I mentioned in a question above. I finally tried it for my consulting business vehicle deduction situation. The document analysis was super helpful - I found out I was calculating my Section 179 deduction all wrong! Turns out I was eligible for a much larger deduction than my accountant initially figured because of how I structured my business usage. The best part was getting clarity on the depreciation recapture rules if I sell the vehicle before 5 years. That was something I never even considered and could have been a huge tax hit down the road. Definitely worth checking out if you're looking at a significant vehicle purchase for your business.
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20 After dealing with hours of waiting to speak with someone at the IRS about Section 179 rules for my business vehicles last year, I discovered Claimyr (https://claimyr.com). They actually get the IRS to call YOU back instead of waiting on hold forever. There's a demo of how it works here: https://youtu.be/_kiP6q8DX5c I had specific questions about recapture provisions for Section 179 vehicles that weren't clearly addressed in the IRS publications, and needed definitive answers before making a purchase decision. Using Claimyr, I got a call back from an IRS agent in about an hour instead of spending my entire afternoon on hold. The agent walked me through exactly how the business use percentage affects my deduction over time.
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•9 Wait, this actually works? I thought it was impossible to get through to the IRS these days. How do they actually get them to call you?
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•4 This sounds too good to be true. The IRS callback system is notoriously unreliable. How much does this cost? And are you sure they're not just connecting you with some random tax "expert" instead of actual IRS agents?
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•20 It absolutely works! They use some kind of priority system to secure your spot in the IRS phone queue and then have them call you back. I don't know the technical details of how they do it, but I'm 100% certain I was speaking with an actual IRS representative. The person who called me had access to all my IRS records and was able to give me official guidance on Section 179 deductions specific to my business situation. They confirmed exactly how the recapture rules would work if my business use percentage changed in future years, which was the clarity I needed.
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4 I have to apologize for my skepticism about Claimyr in my earlier comment. After waiting on hold with the IRS for FOUR HOURS last week trying to get clarity on a Section 179 issue, I decided to try Claimyr out of desperation. I was shocked when I got a call back from an actual IRS agent in about 40 minutes. The agent was able to answer my specific questions about how selling a Section 179 vehicle before the end of its recovery period would affect my taxes. She explained exactly how the recapture provisions work and what documentation I need to maintain. This literally saved me from making a $65,000 purchase that would have had unexpected tax consequences given my business's specific situation.
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13 One thing to consider with Section 179 vehicles - make sure you're genuinely using it primarily for business. I had a client who got audited and lost most of their deduction because they couldn't substantiate their claimed 80% business use. Keep detailed mileage logs showing business vs personal trips. The IRS looks very closely at vehicle deductions, especially for expensive SUVs.
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•7 What's the best way to track mileage? Is there an app you recommend or is the old-fashioned paper log still better?
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•13 I recommend a digital solution over paper logs. Apps like MileIQ, Everlance, or TripLog automatically track your trips using GPS and let you classify them as business or personal with a simple swipe. The most important thing is consistency. The IRS wants to see regular tracking, not estimates or reconstructed logs created after the fact. Even with an app, take a moment each day or week to classify your trips while they're fresh in your mind. Also document the business purpose for trips - just having the mileage isn't enough if you get audited.
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3 Does anyone know if leasing might be better than buying for Section 179 purposes? I've heard mixed things about whether the full lease payment is deductible vs. complicated depreciation schedules.
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•15 Leasing can be simpler for taxes since you generally deduct the actual lease payments as a business expense based on your business use percentage. No Section 179 or depreciation calculations to worry about. But leasing usually costs more over time than buying. If you buy using Section 179, you get a bigger deduction upfront, which sounds like what you're looking for to reduce this year's tax bill. The trade-off is smaller deductions in future years.
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