How does Section 179 depreciation work with car leasing for a small business owner?

The Section 179 deduction can definitely be confusing! Let me help clarify things for you. For leased vehicles, Section 179 generally doesn't apply in the way you might be thinking. When you lease, you don't own the vehicle, so you can't take Section 179 depreciation on it. The leasing company (the actual owner) might take the depreciation. However, you still have two good options for your situation: 1. Standard Mileage Rate: For 2025, you can deduct 67.5 cents per business mile driven. This is simple and includes depreciation, gas, maintenance, etc. all in one rate. 2. Actual Expenses Method: You can deduct the business percentage (50% in your case) of actual lease payments, gas, maintenance, insurance, etc. With leases, there's something called the "lease inclusion amount" which might reduce your deduction slightly for luxury vehicles. For your last question - yes, if you start leasing before December 31st, you can begin taking deductions for this tax year, but remember you'll only be able to deduct the expenses incurred within the tax year. My suggestion? For most sole proprietors with 50% business use, the standard mileage rate is often simplest and quite beneficial.

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Something else to consider that nobody mentioned yet - if you're using your vehicle 50% for business and 50% for personal use, make sure you keep REALLY good records of your mileage. I got audited last year and the IRS was super picky about my vehicle logs. I now use an app to track every business trip with timestamps and locations. Without proper documentation, they can deny your entire vehicle deduction, whether it's Section 179, standard mileage, or actual expenses.

Has anyone considered the electric vehicle tax credits instead? With the new incentives in 2025, you might be better off buying an EV or plug-in hybrid rather than leasing a gas vehicle. Some of the credits are pretty substantial now and can significantly offset the purchase price.

Great question about Section 179 and leasing! I went through this exact dilemma last year with my consulting business. One thing that really helped me understand the difference was realizing that with leasing, you're essentially "renting" the vehicle, so the depreciation benefits stay with the actual owner (the leasing company). But don't let that discourage you from leasing - there are still solid tax benefits! Since you mentioned you typically don't keep cars longer than 3 years anyway, leasing might actually align well with your habits. With 50% business use, you can deduct 50% of your lease payments, plus 50% of gas, maintenance, and other vehicle expenses if you go the actual expense route. The timing question you asked is important too - yes, you can start taking deductions as soon as you begin the lease this year, but only for the portion of the year you actually had the lease. So if you lease in November, you'd get 2 months of deductions for 2025. One more consideration: have you looked into whether any vehicles you're considering qualify for the business use of electric vehicle credits? Sometimes the combination of lease incentives plus tax credits can be surprisingly beneficial, even without Section 179. Keep those mileage logs detailed - the IRS loves documentation on vehicle deductions!