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Isaac Wright

Claiming a 2022 Schedule C deduction for car purchase: Standard vs actual mileage, business use vehicle questions

Hey everyone, looking for input on a SUPER OLD car I bought at the end of 2022. Planning to start using it for business in April 2023, probably around 60% business use but that might fluctuate. It's seriously old but still running ok - estimating maybe $900 in repairs annually. Few questions I'm wondering about: 1. Has anyone done the Section 179 deduction for their vehicle and later had to recapture depreciation because their business use percentage changed? Is it even possible to claim this on my 2023 taxes for a car purchased in 2022 if I'm only starting business use in 2023? 2. What's your experience with standard mileage deduction vs. tracking actual expenses? I don't do tons of highway driving for work right now. Being self-employed means I don't have a single business location. 3. I've been reading up on standard vs actual mileage calculations for Schedule C filers - anyone know if the guidance out there is accurate for self-employed folks?

Lucy Taylor

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Those are excellent questions about business vehicle deductions. Let me help break this down: For your Section 179 question - you can only claim this deduction in the year you actually put the vehicle into business service, which would be 2023 in your case, not 2022. The purchase date matters less than when you started using it for business. And yes, if your business use percentage drops below 50% in a future year, you'll need to recapture some of the depreciation you claimed. Regarding standard vs. actual expenses - this is a common dilemma. For older vehicles with relatively low mileage, actual expenses often provide a better deduction, especially considering repairs on an aging vehicle. However, if you choose actual expenses in the first year, you're locked into that method for the life of the vehicle. If you choose standard mileage first, you can switch to actual later. Remember that standard mileage is simpler record-keeping - just track your business miles. Actual expenses require tracking everything: gas, insurance, repairs, registration, etc., then applying your business percentage.

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Connor Murphy

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Thanks for the detailed answer! So if I'm understanding correctly, if I choose standard mileage the first year I'm using the car for business (2023), I could potentially switch to actual expenses in a future year if it becomes more beneficial? But if I choose actual expenses first, I'm stuck with that method forever? Also, with an older car that might need more repairs as time goes on, would it make sense to start with standard and then switch to actual once repairs start piling up?

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Lucy Taylor

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You've got it exactly right! If you start with standard mileage in 2023, you maintain the flexibility to switch to actual expenses in a future year. But if you start with actual expenses, you're committed to that method for the vehicle's lifetime in your business. Your strategy makes perfect sense. Starting with standard mileage gives you that flexibility, and then if your repair costs start increasing significantly as the vehicle ages, you can switch to actual expenses when it becomes more advantageous. Just make sure you're keeping good records either way - mileage logs if using standard rate, and all receipts if planning to switch to actual expenses later.

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KhalilStar

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Kaiya Rivera

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I'm curious about this too. Does it actually help with the decision between Section 179 and standard depreciation? And can it handle the recapture calculations if your business use percentage drops below 50% in future years? Those calculations always confuse me.

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KhalilStar

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It actually works by analyzing the documents you upload - receipts, maintenance records, mileage logs, etc. You categorize trips as business or personal in the system, and it calculates everything automatically. It doesn't "know" which are business vs personal - you still need to track that, but it makes organizing and calculating much simpler. For the Section 179 question, it does help with that decision by running calculations both ways and showing you the impact over multiple years. It has a feature specifically for depreciation recapture calculations that shows what would happen if your business use drops, including warning you about potential recapture issues before they happen.

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Kaiya Rivera

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Madison King

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One thing nobody's mentioned yet - if you're on the fence between standard mileage and actual expenses, track BOTH for the first few months of business use. Keep a detailed mileage log AND save all your receipts. Then run the numbers both ways to see which gives you the better deduction. Remember the standard mileage rate for 2023 is 65.5 cents per mile for business use, up from 58.5 cents in 2022. That's a pretty significant increase that might tip the scales toward using the standard deduction method.

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Julian Paolo

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Do you really need to keep all receipts if you're using standard mileage? I thought the whole point was to simplify recordkeeping? My tax guy said I just need a mileage log showing business vs personal miles.

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Madison King

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No, you don't need to keep all the receipts if you ultimately choose standard mileage. I'm suggesting keeping both types of records temporarily while you figure out which method is more beneficial for your situation. Once you decide which method to use, you can stop tracking the unnecessary documentation. If you choose standard mileage, then yes, all you need is a good mileage log. But if you discover actual expenses give you a better deduction, you'll need those receipts. It's just about giving yourself options for the first few months until you make a final decision.

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Ella Knight

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I used Section 179 for a vehicle in 2019 and had to deal with recapture in 2021 when my business use dropped to 40%. It was a NIGHTMARE to figure out. Had to recalculate everything and ended up owing a bunch of extra tax. My advice: unless you're VERY sure your business use will stay above 50%, the standard mileage rate is way simpler. Less beneficial sometimes but waaaay less headache if your situation changes.

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Did you have to file any special forms for the recapture? I'm in a similar situation where my business use was 70% last year but might drop to around 45% this year.

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