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Daryl Bright

How does the Section 179 SUV Write Off work for vehicles over 6000lbs?

Hey tax folks, I'm a small business owner (real estate) and I'm looking to purchase a new vehicle for work before the end of the year. I've been researching the Section 179 deduction for SUVs over 6000lbs and I'm getting confused by all the different information online. From what I understand, I can deduct up to $28,900 for an SUV weighing over 6000lbs GVWR in 2023, but I'm seeing conflicting info about whether I need to use the vehicle 100% for business or if there's some kind of percentage calculation I need to do. I'm looking at a Ford Explorer that costs about $52,000 and weighs just over 6000lbs. Also, do I need to maintain specific mileage logs or other documentation to qualify? My accountant is on vacation until next month but I want to make this purchase soon to get the tax benefit for this year. Has anyone here claimed this deduction recently? Any tips or gotchas I should know about? Thanks in advance!

Sienna Gomez

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The Section 179 deduction is definitely a good tax strategy for business vehicle purchases, but there are some important details you need to understand. First, yes, SUVs weighing over 6,000 lbs GVWR do qualify for a larger deduction under Section 179, with the current limit being $28,900 for 2023 (this will increase to $29,200 for 2024 due to inflation adjustments). The business use percentage is critical - you can only deduct the percentage that you actually use for business purposes. So if you use the vehicle 70% for business and 30% for personal use, you can only deduct 70% of the maximum allowable amount. And yes, you absolutely need to keep detailed mileage logs documenting business vs. personal use. The IRS scrutinizes vehicle deductions closely. Make sure your Ford Explorer truly exceeds 6,000 lbs GVWR (Gross Vehicle Weight Rating) - this is different from the actual weight of the vehicle. You can find this information on a sticker inside the driver's door or in the owner's manual. Also remember that taking Section 179 is elective - you could alternatively use regular depreciation if that makes more sense for your tax situation.

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Daryl Bright

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Thanks for the detailed response! So if I understand correctly, I'd need to track my business vs. personal mileage carefully all year. If I end up using it 80% for business, would I be able to deduct 80% of $28,900 (about $23,120) for 2023? Also, how does bonus depreciation factor into this? I've heard something about being able to deduct more in the first year with that approach.

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Sienna Gomez

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Yes, if you use the vehicle 80% for business, you could deduct 80% of the $28,900 Section 179 limit, which would be $23,120. Regarding bonus depreciation, that's a great question. For 2023, 80% bonus depreciation is available after applying Section 179. This means that after taking your Section 179 deduction, you can take 80% bonus depreciation on the remaining business-use portion of the cost basis. Then regular depreciation would apply to any remaining amount. So if your SUV costs $52,000, and you've taken $23,120 in Section 179, you could potentially take 80% bonus depreciation on the remaining business portion, which would significantly increase your first-year write-off. Just remember that these deductions reduce your basis in the vehicle for future depreciation calculations and eventual sale calculations.

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Lena Kowalski

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Just want to add something important about the Section 179 SUV deduction that hasn't been mentioned yet. Make sure you place the vehicle "in service" before December 31st if you want the deduction for this tax year. "In service" means you're actually using it for business purposes, not just that you've purchased it. I made this mistake a few years ago - bought an Escalade on December 30th but didn't actually start using it for business until January 5th. My accountant said I couldn't claim it for the previous year's taxes. Also, keep your purchase documents, registration, insurance showing business use, and definitely those mileage logs. I use a simple app on my phone that tracks business vs personal miles and generates reports I can give to my accountant.

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What app do you use for tracking mileage? I've tried a couple but they drain my battery like crazy or forget to track trips.

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Lena Kowalski

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I use MileIQ and it's been pretty reliable for the past two years. It runs in the background and automatically detects when you're driving, then lets you swipe left for personal trips or right for business. Battery drain isn't too bad on my phone. There's also Everlance which some of my colleagues prefer. Both generate IRS-compliant reports that you can export as PDFs for your records. The key is making it a habit to categorize your drives daily rather than trying to remember at the end of the month what each trip was for.

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Mei-Ling Chen

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What nobody has mentioned yet is that you need to make sure your business entity is structured correctly to maximize this deduction. If you're a sole proprietor vs. an S-corp vs. an LLC taxed as an S-corp, the way you handle this deduction can be very different. In my case (real estate investor with an LLC taxed as an S-corp), I pay myself a reasonable salary and the company owns the vehicle. This way I can take the Section 179 deduction at the business level, but there are implications for how personal use is handled. If you use the vehicle personally at all, the business needs to either: 1) report the personal use as taxable compensation to you on your W-2, or 2) you need to reimburse the business for personal use. Gets complicated fast, which is why having a good tax pro is important.

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Daryl Bright

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Oh that's really interesting - I have an LLC that I've been thinking about converting to an S-corp. Does the business structure significantly change how much I can deduct, or is it more about how the deduction is reported?

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Mei-Ling Chen

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It's more about how the deduction is reported and how personal use is handled rather than changing the actual amount you can deduct. With an S-corp, if the company owns the vehicle, the business takes the deduction directly. Any personal use needs to be handled as compensation or reimbursement. With a sole proprietorship or single-member LLC (taxed as sole prop), you're taking the deduction on Schedule C, and you simply reduce the deduction by the personal use percentage. There's no need to track "compensation" since it's all you anyway. The S-corp approach can offer some tax advantages in terms of self-employment taxes, but it comes with more administrative requirements. This is definitely something to discuss with your tax advisor when considering an entity conversion, as the vehicle deduction is just one piece of the puzzle.

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Jasmine Quinn

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One thing to keep in mind that I learned the hard way - make sure you understand the recapture rules if you sell the vehicle within a few years. If you take a large Section 179 deduction and then sell the SUV for more than its depreciated book value, you'll have to "recapture" some of that deduction as ordinary income rather than capital gains. For example, if you take a $25,000 Section 179 deduction on a $50,000 SUV and sell it two years later for $35,000, you could face recapture on the difference between the sale price and the depreciated basis. This caught me off guard when I upgraded my business vehicle sooner than expected. Also, just to reinforce what others have said - the 6,000 lb requirement is GVWR (Gross Vehicle Weight Rating), not curb weight. I've seen people get tripped up thinking their vehicle qualifies when it doesn't. The Ford Explorer you mentioned should qualify, but double-check that specific model year's GVWR to be sure. It's usually listed on the driver's door jamb sticker or in the owner's manual specifications. Keep excellent records from day one - it's much easier to maintain good documentation habits than to try to reconstruct everything later if you get audited.

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