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Calculating Tax Savings for SUV Purchase with Section 179 and Bonus Depreciation

Title: Calculating Tax Savings for SUV Purchase with Section 179 and Bonus Depreciation 1 I need help figuring out how much I could save on taxes by buying a heavy SUV for my business using section 179 or bonus depreciation. Here's what I'm looking at: * SUV weighing over 6000 lbs * Going to cost around $78,000 * I'm in the 35% tax bracket * Will be used 100% for business throughout 2024 My main question is whether I can deduct the entire purchase price through bonus depreciation? That would mean about $27,300 in tax savings ($78,000 × 35%). Or am I limited to the Section 179 deduction cap of $26,000 for SUVs? In which case I'd only save $9,100 ($26,000 × 35%). I'm trying to figure out the best approach before making such a big purchase for my consulting business. Has anyone dealt with this situation before?

7 The tax treatment for heavy SUVs (over 6,000 lbs GVWR) gets a bit complicated, but I'll break it down for you. For 2024, you have two main options: Section 179 or bonus depreciation. With Section 179, you're correct that there's a $26,000 limit specifically for SUVs over 6,000 lbs. However, with bonus depreciation, the rules are different. For 2024, bonus depreciation is at 60% (not 100% anymore - it's been phasing down). So your calculation would be: $26,000 under Section 179, plus bonus depreciation of 60% on the remaining amount ($78,000 - $26,000 = $52,000 × 60% = $31,200). Total first-year deduction: $57,200. At 35% tax bracket, that's about $20,020 in tax savings. The remaining basis would be depreciated over 5 years using regular MACRS depreciation.

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12 Wait I'm confused about combining them. Can you actually use both Section 179 AND bonus depreciation on the same vehicle? I thought it was one or the other? Also, isn't bonus depreciation supposed to be 80% for 2024 not 60%?

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7 Yes, you can actually combine Section 179 and bonus depreciation on the same asset, but you apply Section 179 first, then bonus depreciation on the remaining basis. You're right about the bonus depreciation percentage - I apologize for the error. For property placed in service during 2024, bonus depreciation is 80% (not 60%). So the calculation would be: $26,000 under Section 179, plus bonus depreciation of 80% on the remaining amount ($78,000 - $26,000 = $52,000 × 80% = $41,600). Total first-year deduction: $67,600. At 35% tax bracket, that's about $23,660 in tax savings.

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19 I'm skeptical that any software could really understand all the nuances of section 179 and vehicle depreciation. What about the recapture rules if you don't maintain 100% business use? Does it handle that too?

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16 Something nobody mentioned yet - make sure your business can actually support having this expensive vehicle. I've seen the IRS question large vehicle purchases when the business income doesn't seem sufficient to justify it. They look at whether the purchase is "ordinary and necessary" for your specific business.

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21 Do you know if there's a specific income-to-vehicle ratio they look for? I'm a real estate agent making about $120k/year and want to deduct an $80k SUV. Is that reasonable or asking for audit trouble?

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16 There's no specific formula or ratio the IRS publishes, but they do look at whether the vehicle expense is reasonable compared to your business type and income. For real estate agents, luxury vehicles are pretty common and justified since you're transporting clients. At $120k income with an $80k vehicle, you're probably fine as long as you can demonstrate legitimate business use and maintain proper documentation. Real estate is one of those professions where a nicer vehicle is often expected and can be justified as ordinary and necessary. Just make sure you keep a detailed mileage log and document all business usage.

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11 Don't forget about state tax implications too! The federal deduction is great, but some states don't fully conform with federal bonus depreciation rules. I got a nasty surprise in California when I took full bonus depreciation federally but had to use regular depreciation for state taxes.

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24 Which states DO fully conform with the federal rules? I'm in Texas so I don't have state income tax, but I'm curious about how this works in other states.

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Most states that don't have their own income tax (like Texas, Florida, Nevada, etc.) obviously don't have conformity issues. Among states with income tax, it varies widely. Some states like Arizona and Colorado generally conform to federal depreciation rules, while others like California and New York have their own rules that can differ significantly from federal treatment. New York, for example, has decoupling provisions that can limit bonus depreciation. Illinois has had on-and-off conformity with federal bonus depreciation over the years. Your best bet is to check with a tax professional familiar with your specific state's rules, since this can really impact your overall tax strategy for a large purchase like this.

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One thing I learned the hard way - make sure you're crystal clear on the GVWR (Gross Vehicle Weight Rating) vs actual weight. The IRS goes by the manufacturer's GVWR, not what the vehicle actually weighs when loaded. I almost missed out on the deduction because I was looking at curb weight instead of GVWR. Also, timing matters more than people realize. If you're planning to buy in December, make sure the vehicle is actually "placed in service" (meaning delivered and available for business use) before December 31st to claim the deduction for that tax year. I had a client who ordered in November but didn't take delivery until January 2nd and lost out on a whole year of deductions. The documentation requirements are pretty strict too - you'll need to maintain detailed records showing the business use percentage, mileage logs, and receipts for all vehicle-related expenses. The IRS loves to audit vehicle deductions, especially on expensive SUVs.

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This is really helpful advice! I had no idea about the GVWR vs actual weight distinction. As someone new to business vehicle deductions, could you clarify what specific documents I should be keeping for the IRS? You mentioned mileage logs and receipts, but are there any other records that are commonly overlooked? I want to make sure I'm bulletproof if they ever decide to audit my SUV purchase.

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Great question! Beyond mileage logs and receipts, here are some commonly overlooked documentation requirements: 1. **Business purpose documentation** - For each trip, note the specific business purpose (client meeting, site visit, etc.), not just "business use" 2. **Purchase documentation** - Keep the original purchase agreement, financing documents, and title showing the exact GVWR 3. **Contemporaneous records** - Your mileage log needs to be kept in real-time, not reconstructed later. The IRS can reject logs that look like they were created after the fact 4. **Mixed-use allocation** - If you use the vehicle for both business and personal, document your methodology for determining the business percentage 5. **Form 4562 election statements** - Keep copies showing exactly which depreciation method you elected and when 6. **Insurance and registration** - Keep records showing the vehicle is registered to your business (if applicable) The key is consistency and contemporaneous record-keeping. Many people get tripped up trying to recreate records months later when preparing taxes. Start your documentation system the day you buy the vehicle!

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