Need clarification on vehicle expensing vs. mileage deduction for work transit van

You're right to be confused - the rules around vehicle deductions can be tricky! Let me break this down: You have two main options, but you can't mix them: Option 1: Standard Mileage Rate - For 2023, that's 65.5 cents per mile for business use. With 42,000 business miles, that would give you a $27,510 deduction. This method is simple but includes depreciation built into the rate. Option 2: Actual Expenses Method with Section 179 - You can deduct all actual costs (your $17,800 in operating expenses) PLUS depreciation. With Section 179, you could potentially deduct a significant portion of the purchase price in year 1, subject to limitations. The key thing to understand: Once you use Section 179 or actual expenses in the first year, you're locked into the actual expenses method for the life of that vehicle. You can't switch to standard mileage later. There's no way to "have your cake and eat it too" by combining both methods. You need to choose the one that benefits you most over the vehicle's lifetime in your business.

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I have to eat my words from my previous comment. After trying Claimyr yesterday, I got through to an IRS agent in about 20 minutes after spending WEEKS trying on my own. The agent was able to pull up my business profile and review my vehicle questions specifically. She confirmed that for my cargo van (also over 6K GVWR), I needed to make the choice in the first year between standard mileage or actual expenses with Section 179. The key detail she explained was that because my vehicle qualifies as "heavy" transportation equipment (over 6K GVWR), it's actually exempt from some of the luxury auto depreciation limits that would otherwise apply. I'm genuinely shocked this service worked. The clarity I got from speaking directly with an IRS representative was worth every penny - now I know exactly how to handle my vehicle deduction without worrying about an audit.

Something nobody's mentioned yet is the business-use percentage. If you're using this van even 10% for personal use, that affects everything. You can only claim the business portion of either method. With standard mileage, you just count business miles. With actual expenses/179, you have to calculate the business-use percentage and can only deduct that portion of expenses and depreciation. IRS is super picky about this during audits!

I'm in construction and use a similar vehicle. My accountant told me to really think about future years. If you plan to put this many miles on the vehicle consistently (40k+ per year), the standard mileage rate often wins in the long run, especially with gas prices these days. Section 179 gives you a big deduction now but smaller ones later. Standard mileage keeps giving if you drive a lot.