How to Claim Foreign Tax Credit and Standard Deduction Together as Expat?
Hey everyone, I'm in a bit of a tax situation and hoping for some guidance. I'm an American living in Spain for the past few years and am currently preparing my US taxes. I'm planning to use the Foreign Tax Credit (FTC) to offset my tax liability for the income I earn here in Spain. The wrinkle is that I also have some investments back in the States that generate around $1,500 in dividends annually. This US-sourced income obviously won't be covered by the FTC since I'm not paying Spanish taxes on it. I'm wondering - can I still claim the standard deduction on my US tax return to reduce my overall taxable income (which would include both my Spanish salary and these US dividends), and then apply the FTC to the remaining foreign income portion? If this works the way I think it might, I believe it would essentially bring my US tax liability down to zero. Has anyone been in a similar situation or know how this works? I'd really appreciate any insights!
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Lucy Taylor
Yes, you absolutely can claim both the standard deduction AND the Foreign Tax Credit! This is actually a common situation for Americans living abroad. Here's how it works: When filing your US taxes, you first report your worldwide income (both your Spanish earnings and your US dividends). Then you take the standard deduction (assuming you're not itemizing), which reduces your overall taxable income. After that, you calculate your US tax liability on the remaining taxable income. Finally, you apply the FTC against the portion of your US tax that relates to your foreign income. Since the standard deduction ($13,850 for single filers in 2023, higher for 2024/2025) is likely more than your US dividend income, you should be able to effectively reduce your US tax liability to zero or very close to it. Just make sure you're filing Form 1116 correctly to claim the FTC. One thing to watch out for: make sure you're properly sourcing your income on the Form 1116. Your foreign income goes on one form, while your US dividends should not be included on the 1116.
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Connor Murphy
•Thanks for this explanation! I'm in a similar situation but in the UK. Quick question - does it matter which income the standard deduction is applied against first? Like, does it reduce the foreign income first or the US income first? Or does it not matter? Also, when calculating the FTC limitation, is it based on total tax or just the portion related to foreign income?
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Lucy Taylor
•The standard deduction reduces your overall income regardless of source - it's not specifically applied to either foreign or US income first. It simply reduces your total taxable income before any further calculations. For the FTC limitation, it's based only on the portion of your US tax that relates to your foreign income. The IRS basically looks at what percentage of your total taxable income comes from foreign sources, and then allows you to claim the FTC against that same percentage of your US tax liability. This is why Form 1116 has you calculate your foreign income as a ratio of your total worldwide income.
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KhalilStar
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KhalilStar
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Katherine Ziminski
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Vanessa Chang
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Katherine Ziminski
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Vanessa Chang
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Madison King
One thing nobody's mentioned yet that the original poster should watch out for - make sure you're not mixing up the Foreign Tax Credit with the Foreign Earned Income Exclusion (FEIE). They're completely different approaches to handling foreign income. With the FEIE (Form 2555), you exclude your foreign earned income up to a limit ($120,000+ for 2025), but you can't take deductions against excluded income. With the FTC (Form 1116), you report all income but get credit for foreign taxes paid. In many cases, especially in high-tax countries like Spain or Germany, the FTC can be more beneficial than the FEIE, especially when you want to claim the standard deduction against your total income. Also, check if your dividends qualify for the reduced qualified dividend tax rates, which could further reduce your liability.
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Isaac Wright
•Thanks for mentioning this! I've actually been going back and forth between using the FTC vs FEIE. Spain's tax rates are pretty high, so I think the FTC makes more sense in my case. Plus, I like that I can still use tax-advantaged accounts in the US with the FTC approach, whereas the FEIE can disqualify me from contributing to IRAs, etc. Am I understanding correctly that with FTC, I report all worldwide income, take my standard deduction from that total, and then calculate what portion of my remaining US tax liability is attributable to my foreign income to determine how much foreign tax credit I can claim?
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Madison King
•You've got it exactly right. With the FTC approach, you include all income (both US and foreign), subtract your standard deduction from that total, and then calculate your US tax liability on what remains. For Form 1116, you then determine what percentage of your taxable income came from foreign sources, and that's the percentage of your US tax that can be offset by foreign taxes you've paid. Since Spain has higher tax rates than the US in most brackets, your foreign tax credit will likely completely eliminate the US tax on your Spanish income, leaving you only potentially owing something on those US dividends (which the standard deduction will probably cover anyway). And you're right about the retirement account advantages too - using the FTC instead of FEIE allows you to contribute to IRAs and other tax-advantaged accounts, which is a significant benefit for long-term planning.
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Julian Paolo
Has anyone else had issues with the IRS rejecting e-filed returns with Form 1116? I'm in almost the same situation (American in Portugal with US dividend income) and I keep getting rejections when I try to e-file. The error messages are super vague too! Something about "inconsistencies in foreign tax credit calculation.
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Ella Knight
•I had this exact issue last year! The problem was that I had entered my foreign taxes in the wrong currency. Make sure you're converting everything to USD using the yearly average exchange rate published by the IRS. Also check that you're allocating expenses properly between your foreign and US income categories on Form 1116.
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