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Foreign Income Exclusion vs Foreign Tax Credit: Which is better for expat tax filing?

Hey tax nerds! I've been working abroad for a few years and I'm totally confused about whether to use the Foreign Earned Income Exclusion (FEIE) or Foreign Tax Credit (FTC) on my taxes. What are the pros/cons of each option? I'm trying to figure out which one saves me more money overall. Is it even possible to claim both in the same tax year? (Pretty sure you can't but wanted to double check...) The bigger question - can I switch between them year to year? Like if I used the FTC for 2023, can I use the FEIE for 2024, and then switch back to FTC for 2025? Someone told me once you choose the Exclusion, you're locked in for a while... My situation: I claimed the FTC for 2023 and had about $13,500 in excess credits that weren't used. For 2024, I ended up using the FEIE and excluded all my foreign income. Now I'm back in the US for 2025 and wondering if I can somehow use those leftover credits from 2023 on this year's taxes? Any help would be seriously appreciated! This expat tax stuff is making my brain hurt 😫

The Foreign Earned Income Exclusion (FEIE) and Foreign Tax Credit (FTC) have different benefits depending on your situation. FEIE pros: Excludes up to $120,000 (for 2025) of foreign earned income from US taxation. It's straightforward if you earn under the limit. Cons: Doesn't help with investment income, and you lose access to certain tax benefits tied to earned income (like IRA contributions based on excluded income). FTC pros: Dollar-for-dollar reduction of US taxes, can carry forward unused credits for 10 years, and works for all types of income. Cons: More complex calculations and paperwork. You cannot claim both on the same income, but you could use FEIE for earned income and FTC for investment income. Regarding switching: You can switch from FTC to FEIE anytime, but once you choose FEIE and then revoke it, you cannot claim FEIE again for 5 years without IRS approval. For your unused credits from 2023 - yes, you can still use them! FTC carryovers have a 10-year lifespan, so those excess credits from 2023 can be applied to any US tax liability through 2033, even in years where you used FEIE for your current income.

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Thanks for the detailed explanation. I'm in a similar situation but work in a country with higher tax rates than the US. Would it make more sense for me to choose FTC in that case? Also, I've heard that using FEIE might affect my ability to contribute to retirement accounts - is that true?

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If you work in a high-tax country, the FTC typically makes more sense because you'll get credit for all those foreign taxes paid. With FEIE, you'd just exclude the income but wouldn't benefit from the higher taxes you're paying. Yes, using FEIE does impact retirement accounts. When you exclude income with FEIE, that excluded portion can't be used as a basis for IRA contributions. For example, if you exclude all your income with FEIE, you technically have no earned income for IRA contribution purposes. This is a significant disadvantage of FEIE that many expats don't realize until it's too late.

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After spending hours trying to figure out my expat taxes last year, I stumbled across taxr.ai (https://taxr.ai) and it completely changed my approach to handling my foreign income. I was bouncing between FEIE and FTC calculations trying to figure out which would be better based on my situation in Germany. The tool analyzed all my German tax documents and income sources, then showed me exactly how much I'd save using FTC versus FEIE based on my specific circumstances. Turns out I was leaving about $3,700 on the table by using the exclusion when the credit would have been better for my situation with the German tax system. It also explained exactly how the carryover credits would work in future years if I generated excess credits, which was super helpful for planning purposes.

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Does it work for countries other than Germany? I'm in Japan and our tax system is pretty complicated. Would it still be able to analyze my Japanese tax documents?

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How does it handle self-employment tax when you're using FEIE? That's been my biggest headache. Even when I exclude all my income, I still get hit with self-employment tax which feels like double taxation.

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It works for pretty much any country! I've seen people in our expat group use it for Japan specifically and it handles their documents well. It can read the tax documents in the original language and extract the relevant information for US tax purposes. For self-employment situations, it specifically calculates the impact of self-employment tax when using FEIE versus FTC. That's actually one of the key insights it provided me - showing that even though FEIE excluded my income from income tax, I was still paying self-employment tax, whereas with FTC I could offset some of that burden with my German tax payments. It breaks down the calculations to show exactly how much you'd pay under each scenario.

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Former tax preparer here. One thing nobody's mentioned yet is that the choice between FEIE and FTC often depends on the specific country you're in and whether there's a tax treaty with the US. For example, if you're in a country with lower tax rates than the US (like UAE or Singapore), FEIE usually benefits you more because you're excluding income that would otherwise be taxed at higher US rates. Conversely, in high-tax countries like France or Sweden, FTC typically works better because you get credit for those higher taxes paid. The revocation period is another big consideration - that 5-year lockout after revoking FEIE can really cause problems if your situation changes.

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Thanks for this insight! I was in South Korea where the tax rate was pretty similar to the US in my bracket. Do you think that's why I ended up with so many excess credits when I used FTC? Also, is there any way to "partially" use FEIE if you're under the threshold?

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Yes, similar tax rates can definitely result in excess credits, especially if you're paying slightly more tax abroad than you would in the US. Those excess credits are valuable though, since they can carry forward for 10 years. Regarding partial FEIE - absolutely! You don't have to exclude the full amount available to you. Form 2555 allows you to specify exactly how much foreign earned income you want to exclude, up to the maximum limit ($120,000 for 2025). This is actually a really smart strategy in some cases. For example, you might choose to exclude just enough income to keep yourself in a lower tax bracket, while claiming FTC on the rest. Or you might exclude just enough to qualify for certain tax credits that phase out at higher income levels.

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Has anyone had experience with the Foreign Housing Exclusion/Deduction that goes along with FEIE? I'm moving to London next month and I hear housing costs are insane there. Wondering if this additional exclusion makes FEIE better than FTC in high-cost cities?

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I used the housing exclusion when I lived in Hong Kong. It was SUPER helpful because housing there is ridiculously expensive. London has a higher limit than many cities - I think for 2025 it's around $32,000 or so in additional exclusion just for housing costs. This can definitely tip the scales in favor of FEIE+Housing Exclusion vs. FTC in high-cost cities, even if the country's tax rate is similar to the US. Run the numbers both ways though - it really depends on your specific situation.

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Great question! I went through this exact same decision process when I moved back to the US after working in the UK for several years. One key point that hasn't been fully addressed: you mentioned having $13,500 in excess FTC from 2023 - those credits are gold! Since FTC carryovers last 10 years, you can absolutely use them on your 2025 return even though you used FEIE in 2024. This might actually make your decision easier since you'll get immediate benefit from those carried-forward credits. A few additional considerations for your situation: - If you're planning to stay in the US long-term, FTC might make more sense going forward since you won't qualify for FEIE as a US resident - State taxes: some states don't recognize FEIE but do recognize FTC, so if you're in a state with income tax, this could affect your calculation - Alternative Minimum Tax (AMT): FTC can sometimes trigger AMT issues, while FEIE generally doesn't Since you're back in the US for 2025, you probably won't have foreign earned income anyway, so the FEIE vs FTC decision might be moot for this year. Focus on maximizing the use of those carryover credits from 2023! The switching rules are exactly as others described - you can go from FTC to FEIE anytime, but once you revoke FEIE, there's that 5-year waiting period.

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