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How are US taxes applied to foreign investment funds after moving to America?

I just became a US tax resident this year and I'm running into a problem with my investments. I have several investment funds with a broker in Spain (where I used to live), but they're telling me I need to close my account since I'm no longer a Spanish tax resident. I'm really confused about my options and the tax implications: 1. Should I just sell all my funds in Spain? If I do this, would the US tax it at some fixed percentage, or would it just get added to my regular income taxes? 2. Or should I exchange them for a global index fund and transfer everything to a US broker? This would cost me some fees for the service, but I'm wondering if fund exchanges are tax-free in the US? I've got about €75,000 in these funds that I've been building up for the last 8 years, and I don't want to make a costly tax mistake just because I moved countries. My Spanish broker hasn't been very helpful about the US tax implications. Any advice on the smartest approach here? Has anyone gone through something similar?

Welcome to the US tax system! Foreign investments are definitely one of the trickier parts to navigate when you become a US tax resident. When you sell your funds in Spain, you'll pay capital gains tax in the US based on the difference between what you paid for them (your cost basis) and what you sell them for. If you've held them for more than a year, you'd pay long-term capital gains rates (generally 15% for most people, but depends on your income). If less than a year, they're taxed as ordinary income. As for exchanging them, in the US, exchanging one fund for another is still considered a taxable event - it's treated as if you sold the first fund and then bought the second one. So you can't avoid taxes just by exchanging rather than selling. The bigger issue might be whether your funds are considered PFICs (Passive Foreign Investment Companies), which is how the IRS classifies most foreign funds. PFICs have extremely complicated and punitive tax treatment in the US, including additional forms and potentially higher tax rates.

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Thanks for the info! I'm in a somewhat similar situation but with UK investments. Quick question - how do you establish your cost basis for funds you bought years ago in another currency? And do you know if there's a specific IRS form for reporting these foreign funds?

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For establishing cost basis in a different currency, you'll need to convert your original purchase prices to USD using the exchange rate on the date you purchased each investment. Keep documentation of these calculations. It can get tedious if you've made multiple purchases over time. Yes, if these are classified as PFICs (which most foreign mutual funds are), you'll need to file Form 8621 for each fund every year. This form is notoriously complex - many people hire a tax professional just for this form alone. Even if you decide to sell everything now, you'll likely still need to file this form for the current tax year.

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Something nobody's mentioned yet - you should check if Spain has an exit tax that applies when you move your investments out of the country. Some European countries impose taxes when residents leave with their investments. I got hit with this when leaving Portugal and wasn't prepared for it. Also, if your Spanish funds are similar to US ETFs, you might want to look into whether your new US broker can accept a transfer-in-kind rather than selling and rebuying. Some global brokers like Interactive Brokers can sometimes handle this for certain securities.

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Thanks for bringing this up! Do you know if there's any way to find out about Spain's exit tax policies? My broker hasn't mentioned anything about this, but they've been pretty unhelpful overall. Also, with the transfer-in-kind option, would that avoid triggering US taxes, or would the IRS still consider that a taxable event even though I'm not technically selling?

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Your best source would be the Spanish tax authority website or calling them directly. Sometimes these exit taxes only apply if you've been in the country for a certain number of years or have investments over a specific threshold. In Portugal, it only applied to investments I'd held for more than 5 years and only on the appreciation portion. For the transfer-in-kind, if the securities are identical before and after the transfer (same ISIN number), the US generally doesn't consider it a taxable event. You're simply moving the same investment from one broker to another. However, this only works if the exact same fund is available on both platforms. Most European funds don't have US equivalents with identical ISINs, which is where the problem lies.

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Just a warning from my experience - if your Spanish investments are mutual funds or ETFs (sounds like they are), they'll almost certainly be classified as PFICs, which the IRS treats very harshly. When I moved from France with my investments, I didn't know about PFIC rules and kept my foreign funds for 2 years. The tax calculation was a nightmare and I ended up paying much higher rates than if I'd invested in equivalent US funds. I would strongly consider selling everything and rebuying similar US-based funds, despite the one-time tax hit.

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Is there any way around the PFIC classification? I have some Swiss funds I really don't want to sell but don't want the tax headache either.

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