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Camila Jordan

How do you calculate salvage value for depreciation on real estate property?

I'm trying to figure out how to properly determine salvage value for depreciation purposes, especially for some commercial real estate I recently purchased. I understand that salvage value should be the amount you can get for the asset by selling or scrapping it at the end of its useful life. But I'm struggling to find clear guidance online about how to actually calculate this for real property. For equipment and vehicles, it seems more straightforward - you can look at resale markets. But for buildings? Do I just make up a reasonable number? My CPA is out of town for two weeks, and I need to get this figured out for some tax planning. Does anyone have experience with this or know where I can find reliable information?

Tyler Lefleur

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This is a good question, and one that often causes confusion. For tax purposes (assuming you're in the US), you actually don't need to worry about salvage value when depreciating real property. The IRS allows you to depreciate the entire basis of the building over its recovery period without considering salvage value. For residential rental property, you'd use a 27.5-year recovery period, and for commercial real estate, it's typically 39 years. Land is never depreciable, so you need to allocate your purchase price between land and buildings first. The IRS basically assumes a zero salvage value for real property in their depreciation calculations. You'll use either the straight-line method or, in some cases, an accelerated method if qualified.

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Wait, so there's no need to estimate what the building will be worth in 40 years? That's a relief because who knows what anything will be worth that far out. But what about for financial reporting purposes if this isn't just for taxes? Would you need salvage value then?

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Tyler Lefleur

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For tax purposes, you're right - no need to estimate future value. The IRS depreciation system (MACRS) for real property assumes you're depreciating the full basis of the building. For financial reporting purposes (GAAP), it's different. Under GAAP, you would need to estimate a reasonable salvage value and useful life based on your best judgment. Many companies might use 30-50 years for useful life of buildings and estimate a salvage value based on factors like location, construction quality, and expected market conditions. Since this is subjective, companies often document their methodology and apply it consistently.

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Max Knight

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Emma Swift

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Does it actually help with component depreciation or cost segregation studies? Those can really accelerate depreciation but are complicated to DIY.

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I'm skeptical about these tax tools. Does it really provide better information than just talking to a CPA who specializes in real estate? How accurate is the information?

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Lucy Lam

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For real property, you should also look into cost segregation if you haven't already. It's a way to accelerate depreciation by breaking down your property into different components that depreciate faster than the standard 27.5 or 39 years. Things like carpet, fixtures, some electrical systems can depreciate over 5-7 years instead. Typically need an engineering report to back it up though.

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Camila Jordan

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I've heard about cost segregation but wasn't sure if it applied to smaller properties. Mine is a $1.2M mixed-use building - is that too small to make the engineering study worthwhile? What's the typical cost for a study?

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Lucy Lam

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For a $1.2M mixed-use property, cost segregation can definitely make sense. The rule of thumb I've seen is that properties valued at $1M+ typically generate enough tax savings to justify the cost of the study. The cost for a study on a property your size might run between $5,000-$8,000, but the first-year tax savings often exceeds that amount, especially with bonus depreciation currently available. Mixed-use properties actually tend to have more components that qualify for accelerated depreciation compared to single-use buildings, so you might see even better results.

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Aidan Hudson

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Just want to point out something nobody mentioned yet - don't forget about Section 179! If parts of your property qualify (like appliances, carpet, furniture in common areas, etc.) you might be able to expense them immediately rather than depreciating. I'm not a tax pro tho, so double check this.

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Zoe Wang

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Section 179 doesn't apply to buildings or structural components though. It's mostly for tangible personal property used in business. You're thinking of bonus depreciation maybe?

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Thanks for all the detailed responses everyone! This has been incredibly helpful. I had no idea that for tax purposes, the IRS essentially treats salvage value as zero for real property depreciation. That simplifies things significantly. @Tyler Lefleur - your explanation about the difference between tax depreciation (MACRS) and financial reporting (GAAP) was particularly useful. Since I'm primarily concerned with tax planning right now, it sounds like I can move forward with straight-line depreciation over 39 years for the building portion without worrying about estimating future salvage value. The cost segregation discussion has me intrigued too. For a $1.2M property, it sounds like it could be worth exploring, especially if I can accelerate depreciation on components like flooring, fixtures, and electrical systems. I'll definitely bring this up with my CPA when they return. One quick follow-up question - when allocating the purchase price between land and building, is there a standard method the IRS expects, or is it based on property tax assessments?

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