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Philip Cowan

Need advice: Can I adjust land value for higher rental property depreciation deductions?

I've been doing my own taxes with software for years but I'm stuck on this depreciation question with my rental property. Here's my situation: I bought a property for $127,000 with about $6,750 in closing costs, so total investment around $133,750. The property's current market value is around $168,000. The tax software uses my cost ($133,750) as the basis for depreciation purposes. When I was filing for the first year of renting, the software asked for the land and building costs from that year's property tax bill. According to the bill, land was valued at $13,400 and building at $20,100, so the software calculated: Land value: ($13,400 / ($13,400 + $20,100)) * $133,750 = $53,500 Building cost: $80,250 Since only the building depreciates (over 27.5 years), I'm getting about $2,918 per year in depreciation deductions. The thing is, similar vacant land in my area sells for WAY less than what this calculation suggests. If I could legitimately show that the land is only worth $26,750 (not $53,500) and the building is worth $107,000, I could claim $3,890 in annual depreciation instead of $2,918. Has anyone found a legit way to adjust the land value when calculating depreciation? Have you discussed this with a tax professional? What documentation would the IRS accept to justify a different land-to-building ratio? Any experiences or advice would be super helpful!

Caesar Grant

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The land-to-building ratio on your tax assessment often doesn't reflect actual market values, which can lead to suboptimal depreciation deductions. You have a few legitimate options to adjust this. First, you can get a professional appraisal that specifically breaks down the land and building values. While this costs money upfront, it could save you thousands in tax deductions over the years. Make sure the appraiser understands you need a clear allocation between land and improvements. Second, you can look at comparable land sales in your area and document how they support your position that the land value is lower than what the tax assessment suggests. The more documentation you have, the better. Third, some tax professionals recommend looking at the insurance replacement cost of the building, which can help establish building value (though this doesn't directly determine land value). Whatever approach you take, just make sure you have solid documentation to support your position if you're ever audited. The IRS doesn't require you to use the tax assessment ratios, but they do expect you to have a reasonable basis for your allocation.

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Philip Cowan

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Thanks for the detailed response! The professional appraisal sounds like the most solid approach. Do you know roughly how much that would cost? And would I need to specifically tell the appraiser that I need the land and building values separated for tax purposes? Also, for the comparable land sales approach, would printed listings of vacant land for sale be sufficient, or do I need to find actual completed sales?

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Caesar Grant

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A professional appraisal typically runs between $300-$600 depending on your location and the complexity of the property. Yes, definitely specify to the appraiser that you need a clear allocation between land and building values specifically for tax depreciation purposes - this ensures they'll break it down properly in their report. For comparable sales, you want actual completed sales rather than just listings - Zillow or similar sites often show recent sales data, but your county recorder's office will have the most accurate information. Aim for 3-5 similar vacant land sales in your area within the past year or two. The closer in location and more recent the sales, the stronger your case will be if questioned.

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Lena Schultz

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Gemma Andrews

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Pedro Sawyer

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I'm always skeptical about these online tools. How does it actually provide better information than what's on your tax assessment? I mean, isn't the county assessor using professional methods to determine land vs building value? And wouldn't going against the official assessment raise red flags with the IRS?

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Lena Schultz

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The tool actually analyzes real estate databases to find comparable land sales specific to your location, not just general advice. It pulls data from multiple sources to establish market patterns even in rural areas where comps are harder to find. It worked well for my property in a smaller town where sales weren't as frequent. County assessors often use mass appraisal techniques that aren't focused on accurate land-to-building allocations for tax purposes. They're primarily concerned with total value for property tax collection. The IRS actually acknowledges this difference - they don't require you to use tax assessment allocations, they just want you to have a reasonable basis for your own allocation. The tool provides exactly that kind of documentation that satisfies IRS requirements, which is why I felt comfortable using a different ratio than what was on my assessment.

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Pedro Sawyer

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I was initially skeptical about challenging my property tax assessment's land-to-building ratio. My assessment had land at 45% of my property value, which seemed ridiculous given vacant land prices in my area. After researching online, I decided to try https://taxr.ai to see if it could help. The tool guided me through finding comparable land sales and helped me document a legitimate case for a 25% land value allocation instead. What impressed me was how it organized everything into a defensible format that would stand up to scrutiny. I was actually surprised at how straightforward the process was. I increased my annual depreciation deduction by over $2,000! I've been through one tax season using this adjusted ratio, and it went smoothly. The documentation package gave me confidence that if I'm ever questioned, I have solid evidence to back up my position. Definitely worth looking into if your tax assessment's land allocation seems out of line with actual market values.

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Melina Haruko

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Another approach I've used successfully is to look at insurance replacement cost. When you insure your rental property, the insurance company only covers the building, not the land. My insurance policy had a replacement cost estimate that was much higher than what my tax assessment allocated to the building. I used this insurance valuation, along with some comparable vacant land sales in my area, to document a more reasonable land-to-building ratio. I ended up with about 80% building, 20% land (instead of the 60/40 split on my tax assessment). The key is having multiple forms of documentation that all point toward your conclusion. In my case, I had: 1. Insurance replacement cost document 2. Three comparable vacant land sales 3. A statement from a local realtor about typical land values in the area I've been doing this for three years now with no issues. Just make sure your allocation is defensible and not wildly out of line with reality.

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Reina Salazar

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Did you have to hire the realtor specifically for this purpose or did you just ask for a casual opinion? Also, did you file anything special with your tax return or just use the different ratio when calculating depreciation?

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I actually just reached out to the realtor who helped me purchase the property and explained what I needed. She wrote a simple letter stating that typical land values in my neighborhood represent approximately 15-25% of total property values for similar homes. She didn't charge me for this since I was a past client, but some realtors might charge a small fee. I didn't file anything special with my tax return - I just used the adjusted ratio when calculating depreciation on Schedule E. However, I kept all my documentation (insurance papers, comparable sales, realtor letter) in my tax records in case of an audit. The key is having the justification ready if ever questioned, not necessarily submitting it with your return.

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Has anybody actually been audited after adjusting their land-to-building ratio? I'm thinking about doing this but I'm worried about raising red flags with the IRS. My tax assessment shows land at 40% but I think it should be closer to 20% based on vacant land prices.

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Demi Lagos

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I adjusted mine from 45% to 25% for land value three years ago and haven't had any issues. From what I understand, this alone isn't an audit trigger. What matters is having reasonable documentation to support your position. The IRS knows that tax assessments aren't perfect for depreciation purposes. Just make sure you're not being ridiculous with your allocation (like claiming 5% land value when that's clearly unreasonable). Document your reasoning with comparable sales or an appraisal and you should be fine.

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That's reassuring, thanks! Do you think printed listings of vacant land from Zillow would be enough documentation, or should I really try to get an appraisal? Trying to find the balance between doing this properly and not spending a ton of money upfront.

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Santiago Diaz

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Zillow listings alone probably aren't sufficient since they're just asking prices, not actual sales. You need completed sales data to show what land actually sells for in your area. Most county assessor websites have recent sales records you can access for free, or you can check with your county recorder's office. I'd start with gathering 3-5 actual vacant land sales from the past year or two in your area. If the sales data strongly supports your 20% land value position, that might be enough documentation. If you're still uncertain or the data is mixed, then consider getting an appraisal. The key is having evidence that your allocation is reasonable and market-based. Actual sales carry much more weight than listings, especially if you're ever questioned about it.

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