How to handle rental condo depreciation when HOA has a 99-year land lease - 0% Land allocation?
I'm trying to figure out the correct way to handle depreciation on my rental condo and could use some advice. Here's my situation: I purchased a condo as a rental property last year, but I recently realized the HOA doesn't actually own the land underneath the building. Instead, they have a 99-year land lease with the property owner, and we all pay monthly fees that include the land lease payments. This has me confused about how to allocate the purchase price between land and building for depreciation purposes. Normally, I'd check the county assessor's records and use their land-to-building ratio, but I'm questioning if that's right in this case. Since the HOA doesn't own the land (just leases it), my instinct is that I should allocate 100% of my purchase price to the building, making it fully depreciable. The weird part is that the county still assigns about 15% of the value to land on their property records, which seems incorrect given the land lease situation. I'm nervous about claiming 100% building allocation on my tax return, but it seems like the most accurate approach given the circumstances. Has anyone dealt with depreciating a condo in a similar land-lease situation? What percentage did you ultimately allocate to the building vs. land? I'm trying to be accurate while maximizing my legitimate deductions, but I definitely don't want to raise any red flags with the IRS!
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Kylo Ren
This is actually a great question that comes up more than you might think. When you have a land lease situation like this, you're essentially paying for the right to use the building, not the land itself. Since you don't have an ownership interest in the land, you generally wouldn't allocate any portion of your purchase price to land. The county's assessment likely includes land value because their systems are set up to value all properties with a land component, even when the ownership situation is more complex. Tax assessment values and depreciation allocations for federal tax purposes don't have to match. The key thing to consider is what you actually purchased. In this case, you bought a condo unit within a building on leased land. You're not buying any interest in the land itself - that belongs to whoever your HOA is leasing from. Therefore, allocating 100% to the building is generally appropriate. If you want to be extra cautious, you could include a note with your tax return explaining the land lease situation and why you're depreciating 100% of the purchase price. But honestly, this is a common enough scenario that it shouldn't raise eyebrows.
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Nina Fitzgerald
•Thanks for that explanation. I'm in a similar situation but with a co-op apartment I rent out. The building corporation owns the land, not individual shareholders. Would the same logic apply that I can depreciate 100% since I technically don't own any land directly? Also, do you need to file any special form with the IRS to explain this or just depreciate the full amount on Schedule E?
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Kylo Ren
•For a co-op apartment, the situation is a bit different. As a shareholder, you indirectly own a portion of all the co-op's assets, including any land the corporation owns. You would typically need to allocate some portion to land based on the co-op's own allocation or a reasonable estimate. So it's not quite the same as OP's land lease scenario. You don't need to file a special form to explain your depreciation allocation. You'll just report the depreciation on Schedule E as usual. If you want additional documentation for your records, you could keep a written explanation of your allocation method along with supporting documentation (like the land lease agreement in OP's case) in case of questions later.
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Jason Brewer
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Kiara Fisherman
•Does taxr.ai work for all rental property situations or just unusual ones like this? I've got a duplex with a pretty standard setup but my accountant and I disagree about the land/building allocation percentage. Would this help resolve that too?
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Liam Cortez
•I'm skeptical about these online services. What makes them qualified to override county tax assessments? Did they provide any actual tax code references to back up their recommendation? I'm dealing with a similar leasehold condo situation and need something solid before I go against conventional allocation methods.
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Jason Brewer
•It absolutely works for standard rental properties too! The service analyzes property structures of all types - from normal fee simple properties to complex leaseholds. For your duplex situation, it would analyze local property data alongside your purchase docs to determine the most favorable legitimate allocation. What makes taxr.ai different is they provide IRS tax code references with their analysis. In my case, they cited specific sections relating to leasehold depreciation and included relevant tax court cases supporting their position. They don't override county assessments arbitrarily - they explain why tax assessment values often don't apply directly for federal depreciation purposes and provide proper documentation to support their recommended approach.
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Kiara Fisherman
I tried taxr.ai after seeing the recommendation here, and it was incredibly helpful for my duplex situation! I was allocating 25% to land based on my county assessment, but after uploading my closing documents and property records, the system showed me that similar properties in my area were using a 15% land allocation which was fully justifiable. The report they generated included comparable property analysis and specific IRS guidelines that supported the lower land allocation. My accountant was initially hesitant but changed her mind after reviewing their documentation. I'm now depreciating a larger portion of my investment which is increasing my annual deductions by about $1,100. For anyone with rental property depreciation questions, it's definitely worth checking out - especially if you have an unusual property structure like the original poster's land lease situation.
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Savannah Vin
If you're having trouble getting answers from the IRS about this depreciation issue, I'd suggest using Claimyr (https://claimyr.com). I was stuck in a similar situation last year with a complicated property depreciation question and couldn't get through to the IRS for weeks. I found Claimyr after giving up on waiting on hold, and they got me connected to an IRS agent in less than 15 minutes. The agent confirmed that in a 99-year land lease situation like yours, it's appropriate to allocate nearly all value to the building, with maybe a small percentage to land for the value of your "interest" in the lease. You can see how it works in this demo: https://youtu.be/_kiP6q8DX5c My experience was way better than I expected. Instead of wasting hours on hold, I got a definitive answer directly from the IRS that I could document for my records.
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Mason Stone
•How does Claimyr actually work? Do they just sit on hold for you? I've been trying to reach someone at the IRS about rental property depreciation for my situation (townhouse with land lease) for weeks. If this really works I'd try anything at this point.
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Makayla Shoemaker
•This sounds like BS to me. The IRS phone lines are completely overwhelmed. I find it hard to believe any service can get you through when millions of people can't get through themselves. And even if you do get through, different IRS agents give different answers to the same question. I doubt they'd give a definitive ruling on a complex depreciation issue over the phone.
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Savannah Vin
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Makayla Shoemaker
Well, I have to eat my words about Claimyr. After posting my skeptical comment, I was desperate enough to try it for my own condo depreciation question. I figured I had nothing to lose since I'd already wasted hours on hold. It actually worked! I got connected to an IRS representative in about 20 minutes, and they transferred me to a specialist who confirmed that for my situation (very similar to yours - condo with a 99-year land lease), I could depreciate approximately 95% of the purchase price. They explained that the remaining 5% represents the value of my interest in the land lease itself. The agent explained that county tax assessments don't determine IRS depreciation rules, and in leasehold situations, the building value is substantially higher than in fee simple ownership. They suggested documenting my reasoning in case of audit but said this approach is routinely accepted. Never been so happy to be wrong about something!
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Christian Bierman
I'm a bit late to this thread, but wanted to share my experience as I dealt with exactly this situation. I ended up allocating 95% to building and 5% to land, reasoning that there is some minimal value to the leasehold interest in the land, even though the HOA doesn't own it outright. My accountant agreed with this approach, and we've been using it for 3 years now without any issues. The key is to be consistent and have documentation supporting your allocation method. I kept a copy of the land lease agreement along with a brief written explanation of my allocation reasoning. The county assessments are really designed for property tax purposes, not federal income tax. They often don't accurately reflect the economic reality of complex ownership structures like leaseholds. Don't get too hung up on matching their allocation.
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Paige Cantoni
•Thanks so much for sharing your experience! The 95/5 split seems really reasonable and matches what others have suggested. Did you happen to reference any specific IRS publications or guidance when you made this decision with your accountant? I'd like to cite something specific in my records just to be extra safe.
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Christian Bierman
•I don't recall citing a specific IRS publication for the 95/5 split specifically. The general guidance comes from IRS Publication 527 (Residential Rental Property) and Publication 946 (How to Depreciate Property), which both discuss allocating purchase price between land and buildings, but they don't address leasehold situations in detail. What my accountant did was reference the general principle that depreciation allocations should reflect economic reality. Since I had no ownership rights to the land but did have contractual rights via the leasehold interest (through the HOA), we determined that 5% was a reasonable value for those rights. We documented this reasoning in my tax file alongside the land lease details.
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Emma Olsen
Just want to add something important that hasn't been mentioned yet - make sure you're using the correct recovery period for your building! Residential rental real estate has a 27.5-year recovery period, while commercial property is 39 years. With a 100% allocation to building (or even 95%), using the wrong recovery period could make a significant difference in your annual depreciation deduction. Also, don't forget that you can (and should) separately depreciate capital improvements you make to the property, like a new HVAC system or kitchen renovation. Those improvements might have different recovery periods depending on what they are.
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Lucas Lindsey
•One other thing to consider - if your condo association makes major improvements to the building using special assessments you pay, those might be depreciable too. I recently had to pay $8k toward a new roof and exterior repairs, and my accountant had me depreciate that separately from my original purchase price.
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Sarah Ali
This is such a helpful thread! I'm dealing with a similar situation but with a twist - my rental condo has a 99-year land lease AND I'm planning some major renovations (new flooring, updated kitchen, bathroom remodel). Based on what everyone's shared, I'm feeling confident about allocating 95-100% of my original purchase price to the building for depreciation purposes. But I'm wondering about the timing of my renovations - should I wait until after I establish my initial depreciation schedule, or does it not matter? Also, for those capital improvements mentioned by @Emma Olsen, do I need to depreciate them over the same 27.5-year period as the building, or do different improvements have different recovery periods? I'm particularly curious about flooring vs. kitchen appliances vs. bathroom fixtures. Thanks for all the great advice in this thread - it's exactly what I needed to hear!
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Zoe Christodoulou
•Great question about the timing! The timing of your renovations relative to your initial depreciation schedule doesn't really matter - you can start depreciating capital improvements as soon as they're placed in service, regardless of when you established your original building depreciation. For the different types of improvements, they actually do have different recovery periods: - Flooring (carpet, hardwood, tile) - typically 5-7 years depending on the type - Kitchen appliances - usually 5 years - Bathroom fixtures (toilet, sink, tub) - 7 years - Built-in improvements like cabinets or countertops - 27.5 years (same as the building) The key is whether the improvement is considered "personal property" (shorter recovery periods) vs. a structural component of the building (27.5 years). Your accountant can help classify each improvement properly, but this differentiation can significantly impact your annual deductions since shorter recovery periods mean higher annual depreciation. One tip: keep detailed records and receipts for each renovation project separately - it makes the depreciation calculations much cleaner and helps if you're ever audited.
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Ryan Andre
This is such a valuable discussion! I'm a CPA who specializes in rental property taxation, and I wanted to add a few important considerations that haven't been fully addressed yet. First, regarding the 95-100% building allocation for leasehold condos - this is generally correct, but you should also consider the remaining term of the lease. With a 99-year lease that's relatively new, the leasehold interest has substantial value. However, if this were a lease with only 10-15 years remaining, the allocation might be different. Second, I'd strongly recommend getting a professional appraisal that specifically addresses the land/building allocation in your leasehold situation. While it costs around $400-600, it provides solid documentation that the IRS will respect if questioned. Many of my clients have found this small investment pays for itself quickly through increased depreciation deductions. Finally, make sure you understand the implications when you eventually sell the property. All that depreciation you're claiming will be subject to depreciation recapture at a maximum rate of 25%, so factor that into your long-term tax planning. The advice about documenting your reasoning and keeping the lease agreement on file is spot-on. I've never seen the IRS challenge a well-documented leasehold depreciation allocation that's based on sound reasoning.
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Finnegan Gunn
•This is incredibly helpful advice, especially about getting a professional appraisal! I hadn't considered that the remaining lease term could affect the allocation. In my case, the 99-year lease started about 5 years ago, so there are still 94 years left - sounds like that supports a higher building allocation. The point about depreciation recapture is something I definitely need to factor into my long-term planning. I'm treating this as a long-term rental investment, but it's good to know about the 25% recapture rate when I eventually sell. Do you have any specific recommendations for finding appraisers who are experienced with leasehold properties? I imagine not all appraisers are familiar with these situations. Also, would the appraisal need to specifically state the land/building allocation percentages, or is it sufficient if it just explains the leasehold structure and lets me calculate the allocation myself? Thanks for bringing the professional CPA perspective to this discussion - it really adds credibility to all the advice that's been shared here!
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