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How does depreciation recapture work when selling Section 1245 property for a loss?

So I'm trying to figure out this whole depreciation recapture thing with Section 1245 property and I'm honestly confused. Here's my situation - I purchased some equipment for my small business about 3 years ago for $27,000. Over the years, I've claimed $13,500 in depreciation deductions on my tax returns. Now I'm in a position where I need to sell it, but due to market conditions, I can only get about $6,700 for it. What I'm trying to understand is: do I still have to "recapture" the $13,500 in depreciation I've already claimed, even though I'm selling at a loss? Does the IRS consider that $13,500 as ordinary income now? I thought recapture only happened when you sell for a gain, but my buddy is telling me I'm wrong and I'll get hit with taxes on that depreciation regardless. If anyone could break down how Section 1245 property depreciation recapture works in a loss situation, I'd really appreciate it! Working on my tax planning for 2025 and trying to understand what I'm in for if I sell this equipment.

The confusion around Section 1245 property depreciation recapture is pretty common, so don't worry! Let me clear this up for you. When you sell Section 1245 property (like business equipment) at a loss, you don't have to recapture depreciation as ordinary income. In your case, you bought equipment for $27,000, claimed $13,500 in depreciation, and are selling for $6,700. Your adjusted basis is $13,500 ($27,000 - $13,500), and you're selling for $6,700, so you have a recognized loss of $6,800 ($13,500 - $6,700). This is treated as an ordinary loss on your tax return, not a recapture of depreciation. Depreciation recapture only happens when you sell for more than your adjusted basis. If you had sold for $15,000 (above your $13,500 adjusted basis), then $1,500 would be recaptured as ordinary income, but since you're selling at a loss, there's no recapture.

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Wait, so if I understand right, the fact that they're selling for less than their adjusted basis means no depreciation recapture? But what if they sold for exactly $13,500 (equal to adjusted basis)? Would there be recapture then? Also, does this apply the same way to all Section 1245 property or are there exceptions?

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If they sold for exactly $13,500 (equal to the adjusted basis), there would be no gain or loss, and thus no depreciation recapture. Recapture only applies when there's a gain - meaning selling for more than the adjusted basis. This generally applies to all Section 1245 property, which includes most depreciable personal property used in business like equipment, vehicles, and machinery. There aren't really exceptions to this basic rule for Section 1245 property, though Section 1250 property (real estate) works differently and has its own recapture rules.

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A small detail that hasn't been mentioned: If you claimed bonus depreciation or Section 179 on that equipment (which accelerates depreciation), the rules work the same way as regular depreciation. You only have recapture if you sell above adjusted basis. In my business, we deal with equipment sales regularly, and the key is keeping extremely good records of your original purchase price, all depreciation taken (including bonus/Section 179), and the final sale price. This makes tax time much easier.

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Do you have any tips for tracking depreciation across multiple assets? I've got about 15 different pieces of equipment with different purchase dates and depreciation schedules, and I'm worried about making mistakes if I sell some of them.

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I recommend creating a spreadsheet with separate tabs for each tax year. List each asset with columns for purchase date, purchase price, depreciation method, amount depreciated each year, and running total of depreciation. Add columns for adjusted basis that automatically update as you enter annual depreciation. When you sell an asset, add the sale information to your spreadsheet and calculate the gain/loss immediately so you don't forget details. I also take photos of all receipts and save them in the same folder as the spreadsheet. Having this organized system has saved me countless hours at tax time and made my accountant very happy.

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Does anyone know if tax software like TurboTax handles Section 1245 property sales correctly? I'm in a similar situation as the original poster but with about $31,000 of equipment I depreciated around $16,000 and need to sell for maybe $9,000-ish.

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TurboTax does handle it, but it's not super intuitive. When you enter the sale of business assets, it will ask for your original purchase price, total depreciation taken, and sale price. It calculates everything correctly behind the scenes, but I found the questions somewhat confusing. I had to call their support line to make sure I was entering everything right for my equipment sale last year. If your situation is straightforward like you described, it should work fine though.

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Just to add another perspective here - I went through this exact scenario last year with some manufacturing equipment. The key thing that helped me understand it was thinking about depreciation recapture as only applying to the "gain" portion of a sale. In your case, you have an adjusted basis of $13,500 ($27,000 original cost minus $13,500 depreciation taken). Since you're selling for $6,700, which is below your adjusted basis, there's literally no gain to recapture. The $6,800 difference ($13,500 - $6,700) becomes an ordinary business loss that you can deduct. Your buddy might be thinking of situations where people sell equipment for more than the depreciated value but less than the original purchase price. That's when you get into partial recapture scenarios. But in a straight loss situation like yours, no recapture applies. Make sure you keep all your depreciation schedules and purchase records handy when you file - you'll need them to properly complete Form 4797 for the asset sale.

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This is really helpful! I'm new to dealing with business equipment sales and depreciation, so I appreciate the clear explanation about how the adjusted basis calculation works. One question - when you mention keeping depreciation schedules and purchase records for Form 4797, do you need to attach copies of these documents to your tax return, or just have them available in case of an audit? I want to make sure I'm organizing everything correctly for when I eventually need to sell some of my business assets. Also, is there a specific way the ordinary business loss from the equipment sale gets reported on the business tax return, or does it just flow through as part of the Form 4797 calculations?

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