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Ethan Wilson

Can passive income losses offset depreciation recapture tax on investment property?

So I'm looking at selling one of my rental properties that I've owned for about 8 years. Looking at the numbers, I'd be selling for around $675k with an original cost basis of $135k, giving me a profit of $540k. The thing is, I've been taking depreciation deductions the whole time I've owned it, so I know this means I'll owe depreciation recapture tax (25%) instead of the lower capital gains rate. Here's my situation - I have another rental property that's actually showing passive losses this year. What I'm trying to figure out is whether I can use those passive income losses to offset the depreciation recapture income from the property I'm selling? Or does depreciation recapture get treated differently than other passive income when it comes to offsetting with losses? I know regular capital losses can offset capital gains, but I'm not clear on how this works specifically with depreciation recapture. Any insights would be really appreciated!

Yuki Sato

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Great question about depreciation recapture and passive losses! Depreciation recapture is taxed at a maximum rate of 25% (under Section 1250 of the tax code), which is different from both ordinary income and capital gains rates. When you sell a rental property, the IRS essentially "recaptures" the tax benefit you received from depreciation deductions over the years. Unfortunately, passive activity losses from other rental properties generally cannot directly offset depreciation recapture income. Depreciation recapture is considered "unrecaptured Section 1250 gain" - not passive income. Passive losses typically can only offset passive income. However, there are some strategies you might consider. If you have suspended passive losses from the property you're selling (losses you couldn't use in previous years due to passive activity loss limitations), those can be fully utilized when you dispose of the property. Additionally, if you qualify as a real estate professional for tax purposes, different rules may apply.

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Carmen Flores

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Wait, I thought depreciation recapture was still considered part of your overall gain from the property sale? So why wouldn't passive losses offset it? And what about Section 1231 gains - how do those factor in? I'm getting confused about the classification here.

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Yuki Sato

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You're right that depreciation recapture is part of your overall gain, but it receives special tax treatment. When you sell a rental property, the gain is actually divided into different components for tax purposes. The portion of your gain that's attributable to the depreciation you previously took is separated out and taxed as "unrecaptured Section 1250 gain" at a maximum rate of 25%. This isn't technically classified as passive income for purposes of the passive activity loss rules, even though it came from a passive activity. Regarding Section 1231 gains - these are gains from the sale of business property held for more than a year. Rental real estate typically qualifies as Section 1231 property. These gains can be offset by Section 1231 losses, but the depreciation recapture portion is still pulled out and taxed separately at the 25% rate.

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Andre Dubois

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CyberSamurai

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How accurate is this compared to what a CPA would tell you? I've been burned by tax software before that didn't account for all the nuances of rental property accounting.

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Does it work for multi-member LLCs that own rental properties? I own properties with different partners and our tax situation gets complicated fast.

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Andre Dubois

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CyberSamurai

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Jamal Carter

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Mei Liu

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How does this even work? The IRS phone system is notoriously impossible to navigate. Feels sketchy that some service claims they can get you through.

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Seems like a waste of money. I've heard the IRS agents just read from the same scripts you can find online. Did they actually give you any information you couldn't find yourself?

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Jamal Carter

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I was totally skeptical about Claimyr but desperate after trying for weeks to reach the IRS about my depreciation recapture questions. I bit the bullet and tried it - and I'm honestly shocked at how well it worked. Not only did I get through to the IRS in about 35 minutes (versus my previous attempts of hours on hold), but the agent I spoke with was incredibly helpful. She walked me through exactly how the passive loss limitations applied to my depreciation recapture situation and confirmed that while I couldn't offset the recapture with current passive losses, I could use my suspended passive losses from the property I was selling. This made a HUGE difference - I had about $42k in suspended losses that fully unlocked when I sold the property. The agent even sent me to the specialized real estate division who double-checked my understanding of the passive activity grouping rules. Best tax call I've ever had.

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Amara Nwosu

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Has anyone used a 1031 exchange to avoid the depreciation recapture completely? I'm in a similar situation with multiple properties and massive depreciation recapture potential, but I'm considering just rolling everything into a new property instead of paying the 25% tax.

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AstroExplorer

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I did a 1031 last year. It's a great way to defer the depreciation recapture tax, but be warned - the rules are SUPER strict. 45 days to identify potential replacement properties, 180 days to close, and you must use a qualified intermediary. Also, your basis in the new property will be reduced by the amount of gain you deferred, so you're really just kicking the can down the road.

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Amara Nwosu

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Thanks for sharing your experience! Did you have any issues finding suitable replacement properties within the 45-day identification period? That timeline seems really tight in today's market. I understand I'm just deferring the taxes rather than eliminating them. I'm thinking about eventually converting a property to my primary residence later in life and then using the primary residence exclusion, but I know they closed some of those loopholes with newer tax laws.

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There's actually another strategy no one has mentioned yet - if you have self-employment income or active business income (not from the rental), you might be able to offset some of the gain by increasing retirement contributions in the year of sale. Maxing out a SEP IRA, Solo 401k, or defined benefit plan can create substantial deductions.

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But that would only help with regular income tax, right? Not the depreciation recapture tax specifically? My understanding is that retirement contributions don't directly offset capital gains or depreciation recapture.

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Based on my experience dealing with similar depreciation recapture situations, I want to emphasize something important that wasn't fully covered - the timing of when you recognize your passive losses matters significantly. If you've been unable to use passive losses from your other rental property due to the passive activity loss limitations, those losses are "suspended" and carry forward. The key thing to understand is that when you dispose of your entire interest in a passive activity (like selling your rental property), ALL of your suspended passive losses from that specific property become fully deductible against any type of income - including active income, portfolio income, and yes, even depreciation recapture. However, suspended losses from OTHER properties you still own can only offset passive income, not the depreciation recapture. So if your current rental showing losses this year hasn't generated suspended losses yet, those current year losses likely won't help with your recapture tax. I'd strongly recommend reviewing your passive loss carryforwards from the property you're selling - you might have more tax relief available than you realize. The IRS Form 8582 from previous years will show your suspended losses by property.

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Aisha Patel

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This is incredibly helpful information about suspended passive losses! I had no idea that disposing of your entire interest in a passive activity unlocks ALL the suspended losses from that specific property. @be1331d5dda7 When you mention reviewing Form 8582 from previous years, how far back should someone typically look? I've owned my rental for 8 years and I'm wondering if I might have suspended losses from the early years that I've forgotten about, especially during periods when the property wasn't cash flowing well. Also, does this "entire interest disposal" rule apply if you sell the property but still own the land separately, or does it have to be a complete sale of both the building and land together?

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