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Astrid Bergström

Can passive income losses offset depreciation recapture on investment property sale?

I'm trying to understand the tax implications of selling my rental property. Here's my situation - I'm selling a rental property for $650k that I originally purchased for $130k. My cost basis is completely depreciated, so I'm looking at about $520k in depreciation recapture that would be taxed at 25% instead of the lower capital gains rate. I also have another rental property that's currently generating passive losses. What I'm trying to figure out is whether I can use these passive losses to offset the depreciation recapture income from the property I'm selling? Or are these considered different types of income/loss that can't be netted against each other for tax purposes? I know the depreciation recapture is treated differently than regular capital gains, but I'm confused about whether passive activity losses can be used against it. Any insight would be really helpful as I'm trying to estimate my tax bill for next year.

The short answer is that passive losses from one property can potentially offset depreciation recapture income from another property, but there are some important conditions to understand. Depreciation recapture under Section 1250 is indeed taxed at a maximum of 25% rather than the lower capital gains rates. However, this recapture income is still considered passive income if it comes from a passive activity (like a rental property). The key factor is whether your passive losses are currently usable based on your specific situation. If you actively participated in the rental activity and have an adjusted gross income under $100,000, you may be able to deduct up to $25,000 in passive losses against other income. If your AGI is between $100,000 and $150,000, this deduction is gradually phased out. More importantly, when you fully dispose of a passive activity (like selling your rental property), you can generally use any suspended passive losses from that specific property against any type of income, including the gain from that property sale.

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Thanks for the explanation! So if I understand correctly, I can use passive losses from Property B against the depreciation recapture income from Property A as long as both are considered passive activities? And just to clarify - what if my passive losses were suspended in previous years due to the passive activity loss limitations? Would selling the property trigger the ability to use all those suspended losses?

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Yes, passive losses from Property B can potentially offset passive income (including depreciation recapture) from Property A, assuming both are rental properties and considered passive activities. This works through the passive activity rules where passive losses can offset passive income. When you fully dispose of a passive activity in a taxable transaction, any previously suspended passive losses from that specific property become fully deductible against any type of income in that tax year. However, this only applies to the suspended losses from the property you're selling, not from your other properties. Suspended losses from properties you continue to own remain subject to the passive activity rules.

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Does it actually give guidance on specific tax situations like this? I'm dealing with a 1031 exchange and have some suspended passive losses as well. Most tax software I've tried doesn't handle these complexities very well.

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I'm a bit skeptical about using online tools for something this complex. How does it compare to just hiring a CPA who specializes in real estate? Most online tools I've tried don't handle passive activity rules very well, especially with multiple properties.

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It does provide specific guidance on situations like yours. The tool has dedicated sections for analyzing 1031 exchanges and determining which suspended losses can be utilized. It walks you through the specific IRS rules for your scenario rather than just giving generic advice. For complex real estate tax situations, I found it complemented rather than replaced my CPA's work. My accountant actually appreciated the detailed analysis it provided as it helped identify optimization opportunities we hadn't considered. It breaks down passive activity rules property by property, which helped me track my suspended losses much more effectively than the basic tax software.

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I'm extremely skeptical about this. Why would I pay some service to call the IRS when I can just do it myself? And does the IRS even give tax advice on complex issues like passive loss limitations over the phone? That seems like something they'd tell you to consult a tax professional about.

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One important thing to remember about depreciation recapture - it's only the amount of accumulated depreciation that's taxed at the 25% rate. If your gain exceeds the total depreciation taken, the excess is taxed at regular capital gains rates (typically 15% or 20% depending on your income). Also, don't forget about the potential for state taxes on the recapture and gain. Some states don't give preferential treatment to capital gains or have different rules for depreciation recapture.

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That's a good point about the state taxes! Do you know if states generally follow the federal rules for passive loss offsets against depreciation recapture? My state has a pretty high income tax rate so this could make a big difference.

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Most states do conform to federal passive activity rules, but there are definitely exceptions. California, for example, generally follows federal rules for passive losses and depreciation recapture, but New York has some differences in how they treat certain passive activities. If you're in a high-tax state, it's absolutely worth investigating their specific rules. Some states also have special provisions for real estate professionals that might affect how your passive losses can be utilized. Check your state's department of revenue website or tax guidelines, as they often have sections specifically addressing differences from federal treatment.

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You might also wanna look into whether u qualify as a real estate professional for tax purposes. If u do, the passive activity loss limitations don't apply to your rental properties, which would make this whole question moot cuz then the losses wouldnt be considered passive in the first place. U need to meet two requirements: 1) more than half ur personal services during the year are in real property trades/businesses, and 2) u perform more than 750 hours of services in real property trades/businesses.

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Just be careful with claiming real estate professional status - it's one of the most audited areas by the IRS. You need extremely detailed documentation of your hours, like a contemporaneous log tracking all your real estate activities. I've seen people get in trouble claiming this without proper records.

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Another consideration for your situation is the timing of when you can use passive losses. If you have suspended passive losses from prior years on the property you're keeping, those can only offset passive income in the current year - they can't offset the depreciation recapture unless you're disposing of that specific property too. However, if you have current year passive losses from your other rental property, those should be able to offset the passive income portion of your gain, including the depreciation recapture. Just make sure you're tracking which losses come from which property, especially if you have suspended losses carried forward from multiple years. Also worth noting - if you're planning any other real estate transactions soon, the timing could affect your overall tax strategy. Sometimes it makes sense to bunch gains and losses in the same year to maximize the offset benefit.

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This is really helpful timing advice! I'm actually planning to sell both properties within the next 18 months, so this could definitely impact my strategy. If I understand correctly, when I sell the second property, any suspended losses from that specific property would then become fully deductible against any income type? Also, you mentioned bunching gains and losses - would it make sense to try to time the sales so they happen in the same tax year? I'm wondering if there are any other timing considerations I should be thinking about, like depreciation schedules or potential changes to tax rates.

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