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Noah Irving

How do I check if my Mark-to-Market (MTM) election under Section 475(f) was accepted?

Hey everyone, I'm kind of stressing out about my tax situation. Back in April, I filed my 2023 taxes by mail and included a statement requesting the Mark-to-Market election under Section 475(f) for my trading activities. The thing is, I have no idea if my MTM election was actually approved or not. I got an email telling me to check my return status on ID.me, and it shows my return was accepted, but there's nothing specific about my Section 475(f) MTM election. This is my first time mailing in taxes instead of e-filing (had to because of the MTM election statement), and I'm not sure what the next steps are or if I should be waiting for some kind of confirmation about the Mark-to-Market status specifically. Has anyone gone through this process before? How do you check if your MTM election under Section 475(f) was actually approved? Thanks in advance for any help!

Vanessa Chang

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The IRS typically doesn't send confirmation notices for Mark-to-Market elections under Section 475(f). Your election is considered valid as long as you filed it properly and on time. Since you attached the statement with your 2023 return before the due date, and your return was accepted, your MTM election should be in effect. The key thing to remember is that the MTM election is deemed approved unless the IRS specifically rejects it. They generally only contact you if there's an issue with your election. Since you haven't heard anything negative, that's actually a good sign. Going forward, you should maintain your trading records as if the MTM election is in effect and file your 2024 taxes accordingly. This means marking all your securities to market value on December 31st and reporting the gains/losses as ordinary income rather than capital gains.

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Noah Irving

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Thank you for the detailed response! So basically "no news is good news" in this case? I was expecting some kind of formal acknowledgment. One more question - if I'm operating under the assumption that my MTM election is valid, do I need to reference it again on my 2024 return somehow, or do I just start reporting everything as ordinary income without any special forms or statements?

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Vanessa Chang

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No news is indeed good news with the IRS on this matter. They don't send formal acknowledgments for MTM elections - it's simply considered valid if properly submitted and not rejected. For your 2024 return, you don't need to make the election again or include another statement. You'll report your trading activity on Schedule C (as a business) rather than Schedule D and Form 8949 (for capital gains). You'll need to mark all securities to market as of December 31st and report the unrealized gains/losses as ordinary income along with your realized gains/losses. Make sure you keep detailed records of your positions' values on the last day of the year to support your filing.

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Madison King

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I went through the same anxiety last year with my Section 475(f) election! I found that using https://taxr.ai really helped clarify my situation. I was confused about whether my MTM election was valid and if I was tracking everything correctly. What I loved about taxr.ai was how it analyzed my trading patterns and confirmed I was properly implementing the MTM requirements. The system actually found some mistakes in how I was planning to report my year-end positions that would have raised red flags. Definitely worth checking out if you're uncertain about your election status or how to properly implement it going forward.

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Julian Paolo

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Does taxr.ai actually check with the IRS database to confirm the MTM election, or does it just help with the implementation? I'm in a similar situation but my main concern is knowing for sure that the IRS has processed and accepted my election.

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Ella Knight

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I'm skeptical about using third-party services for this. Couldn't you just call the IRS directly and ask them about your MTM status? I feel like that would be more reliable than any tool that doesn't have direct access to your IRS account.

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Madison King

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The service doesn't directly check IRS databases, but it analyzes your filed documents and trading patterns to help confirm if you're correctly implementing the MTM election requirements. They have tax pros who can spot issues with your implementation that might indicate problems with your election. Regarding calling the IRS, that's theoretically possible but extremely difficult in practice. When I tried calling about my MTM election, I was on hold for hours and then the representative couldn't access that specific information anyway. What taxr.ai does is help you determine if your election meets all requirements and if you're implementing it correctly, which is usually the more practical concern than getting direct IRS confirmation.

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Julian Paolo

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Just wanted to update that I tried taxr.ai after seeing the recommendation here. It was actually really helpful! I uploaded my trading records and previous tax documents, and they were able to analyze everything and confirm that my MTM election under Section 475(f) appeared to be properly made. The best part was that they explained exactly how I should be recording my trades going forward and pointed out that I had been inconsistently marking positions, which could have caused problems. They also provided documentation guidelines specific to MTM traders that I hadn't seen before. Definitely feeling more confident about my tax situation now!

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If you're still concerned about your Mark-to-Market election status, you might want to try Claimyr (https://claimyr.com). I was in your exact situation last year - submitted my Section 475(f) election and had no idea if it was processed correctly. After weeks of trying to get through to the IRS with no luck, I found Claimyr. They got me connected to an actual IRS agent in about 20 minutes who was able to check my account and confirm my MTM election was noted on my file. They have this system that holds your place in the IRS phone queue so you don't have to wait for hours. There's a video showing how it works here: https://youtu.be/_kiP6q8DX5c. Saved me so much stress wondering if I was filing correctly.

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How does this actually work? I've tried calling the IRS probably 10 times about my own MTM election and either get disconnected or wait forever. Does Claimyr really get you through faster or are they just using automated dialers which the IRS claims to block?

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Ella Knight

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This sounds too good to be true. I've heard the IRS wait times are intentionally long and there's no way to skip the queue. I'd be surprised if this service actually works better than just calling yourself repeatedly until you get through.

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It's not about skipping the queue - Claimyr holds your place in line so you don't have to stay on the phone yourself for hours. When you're close to speaking with an agent, you get a call back. I was skeptical too but it worked exactly as advertised. Regarding automated dialers, Claimyr doesn't use those. They have a proprietary system that waits in the queue legitimately but allows you to go about your day instead of being stuck listening to hold music. When I used it, I was cooking dinner when I got the callback that an IRS agent was on the line, ready to help with my MTM question.

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Ella Knight

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I have to eat my words about Claimyr. After my skeptical comment, I decided to try it myself for my Section 475(f) question, and I'm honestly shocked at how well it worked. I've been trying for WEEKS to get someone at the IRS to confirm my MTM election was processed correctly. Used Claimyr yesterday afternoon, and within 35 minutes I was speaking with an IRS representative who pulled up my file and confirmed my Mark-to-Market election was properly recorded. They even explained how they note these elections in their system and why they don't send confirmation letters. The agent told me as long as I filed the statement correctly with my return before the deadline (which I did), I'm good to go. Definitely worth it just for the peace of mind of knowing for sure instead of guessing about my MTM status.

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Jade Santiago

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Something nobody's mentioned yet - you should double-check that your MTM election statement included all the required elements. I had an issue where my election was technically submitted but considered invalid because my statement was incomplete. Make sure your statement included: 1. Your name and address 2. Tax ID number 3. The statement "Section 475(f) Election" 4. Specification of which activities (securities, commodities or both) the election applies to 5. The effective date of the election If any of these were missing, the IRS might not consider your election valid even if they accepted your return. You wouldn't necessarily be notified of this either.

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Noah Irving

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Oh that's helpful! Looking back at my statement, I definitely included points 1-3 and 5, but I'm not 100% sure I explicitly specified securities trading in point 4. My trading is all securities, no commodities. If I didn't specify, would that automatically invalidate my election?

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Jade Santiago

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It might not automatically invalidate your election, but it could create ambiguity. The IRS wants clarity on exactly what the election covers - securities trading, commodities trading, or both. If you didn't specify, they might assume it applies to both, which isn't necessarily a problem if you only trade securities. However, if you want to be absolutely certain, you might want to send a clarification letter to the IRS referencing your original election and explicitly stating it applies to securities trading. While not ideal, sending this clarification sooner rather than later would be better than having issues during an audit. Another option is to just ensure your Schedule C clearly shows you're applying MTM to securities trading specifically when you file your 2024 return.

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Caleb Stone

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Anyone else find it frustrating that there's no clear system to check these elections? I made a Section 475(f) election two years ago and still have anxiety every time I file because there's no official confirmation. Even my CPA couldn't get clear answers from the IRS.

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Daniel Price

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This is why I always recommend keeping a certified mail receipt when sending in MTM elections. At least then you have proof it was delivered, even if you don't know if it was processed correctly.

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Ravi Patel

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I completely understand your stress about this! I went through the exact same situation last year with my Section 475(f) election. The lack of confirmation from the IRS is really nerve-wracking when you're dealing with something this important for your tax strategy. What helped me was creating a comprehensive paper trail. I kept copies of everything - my original election statement, the certified mail receipt, screenshots of my return being accepted, and detailed notes about what I included in my statement. I also started maintaining meticulous records of all my trading positions and mark-to-market calculations from day one, just in case. One thing that gave me peace of mind was speaking with a tax professional who specializes in trader tax status. They confirmed that as long as I filed the statement properly with my return before the deadline (which it sounds like you did), the election should be valid. The IRS really does operate on a "no news is good news" basis for these elections. For your 2024 taxes, just proceed as if the election is in effect. Report your trading income on Schedule C, mark all positions to market on December 31st, and treat everything as ordinary income. If there had been an issue with your election, you likely would have heard about it by now, especially since your return was processed and accepted.

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Yuki Nakamura

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This is such great advice, thank you! I really appreciate the emphasis on documentation - I definitely need to get better organized with my record keeping. I did send everything via certified mail and have those receipts, but I should probably compile everything into one file like you mentioned. The part about proceeding as if the election is in effect for 2024 makes sense. I think I was overthinking it and expecting some kind of formal acknowledgment that just doesn't exist with the IRS for these elections. It's reassuring to hear from someone who went through the same anxiety and came out fine on the other side! I'm curious - when you filed your 2024 return (your first year actually implementing the MTM election), did you include any kind of note or reference to remind the IRS that you had made the election, or did you just file Schedule C without any special mention of it?

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Chloe Harris

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I'm going through this exact same situation right now! Filed my Section 475(f) election with my 2023 return in March and have been checking my account obsessively for any kind of confirmation. It's really frustrating that there's no clear way to verify these elections were processed correctly. Reading through everyone's responses here has been incredibly helpful though. The "no news is good news" principle makes sense, even if it's anxiety-inducing. I think the key takeaway is that if the IRS accepted your return and you included a properly formatted MTM election statement, you should be good to go. For anyone else in this boat, I've started keeping a detailed spreadsheet of all my positions with daily mark-to-market values, just so I'm ready when it comes time to file 2024 taxes. Better to be over-prepared than scrambling to recreate records later! Thanks to everyone who shared their experiences - it really helps to know other traders have navigated this successfully.

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Freya Thomsen

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I'm glad this thread helped ease your anxiety! I was in the exact same position a few months ago and the uncertainty was really stressful. Your approach with the detailed spreadsheet is smart - I wish I had been that organized from the start. One thing I learned that might help you and others: when you're tracking your daily mark-to-market values, make sure you're using closing prices from a consistent source (like Yahoo Finance or your broker's platform) and document which source you're using. The IRS doesn't specify exactly how to determine market value, but consistency is key if you ever get audited. Also, don't forget that under MTM you'll need to report the unrealized gains/losses from your year-end positions as ordinary income on your 2024 return, in addition to any realized gains/losses from trades you actually closed during the year. It's a big shift from capital gains treatment but the ability to deduct losses fully against ordinary income can be really beneficial. Keep that paper trail strong and you should be all set! The peace of mind definitely comes with time as you get more comfortable with the process.

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I was in your exact shoes last year and completely understand the anxiety! I filed my Section 475(f) election with my 2023 return and spent months worrying about whether it was properly processed. Here's what I learned after going through this: the IRS doesn't send confirmation notices for MTM elections, which is incredibly frustrating but apparently normal. Since your return was accepted through ID.me, that's actually a good sign - it means they processed your return including any attached statements. A few practical tips that helped me: 1. Keep detailed records of everything - your original election statement, certified mail receipts, screenshots of your accepted return status 2. Start implementing MTM accounting immediately for 2024 - track all positions daily and mark them to market on December 31st 3. Prepare to file Schedule C for your trading activity instead of Schedule D The reality is that unless the IRS specifically rejects your election (which they would notify you about), it's considered valid. I know it's nerve-wracking not having definitive confirmation, but based on what you've described, your election should be in effect. I'm now filing my second year under MTM status and it's become much less stressful once you get into the routine. The key is just staying organized with your position tracking and treating your trading as a business from day one.

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Yuki Tanaka

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Thank you so much for sharing your experience! It's incredibly reassuring to hear from someone who's actually gone through their second year of MTM filing. The anxiety is real when you're dealing with something this significant for your tax situation. Your point about keeping detailed records really resonates - I've been a bit scattered with my documentation but I'm going to get more organized based on everyone's advice here. The tip about starting MTM accounting immediately for 2024 is especially helpful since I was unsure whether to wait for some kind of confirmation first. One quick question - when you filed your second year (2024 taxes), did you notice any difference in how the IRS processed your return compared to your first MTM year? I'm curious if there are any red flags or additional scrutiny once they see Schedule C trading income versus the typical Schedule D capital gains most people file. Also, did you end up working with a tax professional for your MTM filings, or were you able to handle it yourself with tax software? I'm debating whether the complexity warrants getting professional help.

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Taylor Chen

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I went through this exact same anxiety with my Section 475(f) election! Filed it with my 2023 return and spent weeks obsessing over whether it was properly processed since there's no confirmation system. What finally put my mind at ease was understanding that the IRS operates on a "deemed approved unless specifically rejected" basis for these elections. Since your return was accepted and you haven't received any rejection notices, your MTM election is almost certainly valid and in effect. Here's what I wish someone had told me earlier: start implementing MTM accounting practices immediately for 2024. Don't wait for confirmation that will never come. Track your positions daily, maintain detailed records of market values, and prepare to report everything as ordinary business income on Schedule C rather than capital gains. The transition from worrying about election status to actually implementing MTM has been much smoother than I expected. Yes, it requires more detailed record-keeping than traditional capital gains reporting, but the tax benefits (especially full deductibility of losses against ordinary income) make it worthwhile. Keep your certified mail receipt, your election statement copy, and screenshots of your accepted return status. That paper trail is your confirmation. The IRS may not send you a gold star, but your election is valid if properly filed and not rejected. You've got this - the hardest part (making the election and getting through the uncertainty) is behind you!

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Miguel Silva

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This is exactly what I needed to hear! I've been in the same boat - filed my Section 475(f) election and have been checking my account status obsessively for weeks. The "deemed approved unless specifically rejected" explanation really helps clarify how the IRS handles these elections. Your point about starting MTM implementation immediately is spot on. I was hesitating to begin the daily position tracking because I kept thinking "what if my election wasn't processed correctly?" But you're right - if it was going to be rejected, I probably would have heard about it by now. I'm curious about the practical side - what software or method do you use for tracking daily position values? I've been manually entering closing prices into a spreadsheet but I'm wondering if there are better tools for managing the mark-to-market calculations, especially as my trading volume increases. Also, thanks for the reassurance about the tax benefits. The ability to fully deduct losses against ordinary income was one of the main reasons I wanted MTM status, but the uncertainty about whether my election was valid had me second-guessing everything. Time to stop worrying and start implementing!

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