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How do American and Canadian Taxes differ? What's the minimum tax rate in either country for high earners?

I've been looking into possibly relocating for work in the next few years, and I'm trying to understand the tax implications between the US and Canada. Someone mentioned to me that Canada doesn't have federal taxes, just provincial ones? That sounds too good to be true, especially for high-income earners like myself. If I'm making around $220,000 annually, what would be the minimum tax burden I could expect in either country? In the US, I know I could potentially live in a state with no income tax like Texas or Florida, and just pay federal taxes. For Canada, do they have similar write-offs and deductions like we do in the States? And what provinces would have the lowest tax rates? I'm really trying to figure out which country would leave me with more take-home pay at the end of the day. Thanks for any insights you can provide!

This is a common misconception about Canadian taxes. Canada absolutely does have both federal AND provincial income taxes. Both countries have a progressive tax system, but they differ significantly in structure. In the US, at your income level around $220,000, you'd pay federal income tax (top rate of 37% for income over $578,125 in 2023), plus state income tax (varies from 0% to 13.3% depending on the state). You're right that living in states like Texas, Florida, Wyoming, Nevada, etc. means no state income tax, so you'd just pay federal. In Canada, at that same income, you'd pay federal tax (top rate of 33% for income over $235,675 CAD) PLUS provincial tax, which ranges from about 10% in Alberta to 25.75% in Quebec for the highest brackets. So the minimum tax burden in Canada would likely be in Alberta, with a combined federal/provincial rate around 48% for top earners. Both countries offer various deductions and credits, but they differ significantly. Canada has things like RRSP (similar to 401k), but generally fewer itemized deductions than the US. The US system typically allows for more aggressive tax planning for high earners.

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Thanks for clearing that up! Yikes, those Canadian rates sound pretty high compared to what I'd pay in a no-income-tax state in the US. So it sounds like if pure tax minimization is my goal, I'd be better off in Texas or Florida than anywhere in Canada. Do Canadians get any major benefits for those higher tax rates that I should consider? Also, are there any special arrangements between the countries if you earn income in both places?

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Canadians do receive significant benefits for their higher tax rates, most notably their universal healthcare system which eliminates most out-of-pocket medical expenses. When you factor in what Americans typically spend on health insurance premiums, deductibles, and co-pays, this can be substantial savings. Canada also generally offers more affordable higher education, better public infrastructure, and stronger social safety nets. If you earn income in both countries, there's a tax treaty between the US and Canada to prevent double taxation. You'd generally pay taxes where the income is earned, then claim foreign tax credits when filing in your country of residence. However, the US taxes its citizens on worldwide income regardless of where they live, so Americans living in Canada still must file US returns, though various exclusions and treaties often prevent actual double taxation.

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That sounds useful! Does it handle more complex situations? I'm a contractor with income from clients in both US and Canada, plus some investment properties. The cross-border stuff gets confusing fast with different rules for different income types.

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I'm skeptical about these comparison tools. How accurate could it really be with tax laws constantly changing? Did you verify its calculations against what an accountant with cross-border experience told you?

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After reading this thread, I had to share my experience with the IRS when I moved back from Canada. I had questions about foreign tax credits that no one could answer, and I spent WEEKS trying to get through to the IRS international tax department. Always busy signals or disconnects after hours on hold. I finally tried https://claimyr.com after a colleague recommended it, and they got me connected to an actual IRS agent in 45 minutes. You can see how it works here: https://youtu.be/_kiP6q8DX5c The agent walked me through exactly how to claim the foreign tax credits for the Canadian taxes I paid, and confirmed I was handling my RRSP reporting correctly on my US return. Turns out I was doing one form completely wrong which could have triggered an audit.

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How does this service actually work? I don't understand how a third party can get you through to the IRS faster than calling directly. Seems like it would just be another layer in the process.

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Sorry, but this sounds too good to be true. I've dealt with cross-border tax issues for years and NOTHING gets you through to the IRS quickly. They're perpetually understaffed and overwhelmed. I'm extremely doubtful this service could do what you're claiming.

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It's a clever system that constantly redials the IRS using their automated system until it gets through, then it calls you once it has an agent on the line. It basically does the waiting for you so you don't have to sit there listening to hold music for hours. They use technology to navigate the IRS phone tree and optimize for the best times to call specific departments. I was skeptical too until I tried it. The service basically handles the frustrating part (getting through the queue) and then connects you directly once an actual human is on the line. No third party is involved in your actual conversation with the IRS - it's just you and the agent once connected.

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I need to eat my words about Claimyr. After posting my skeptical comment, I decided to test it myself since I had a complicated question about my Canadian rental property that I've been trying to get answered for months. I tried the service yesterday afternoon and got connected to an IRS international tax specialist in about 37 minutes. My previous attempts on my own had resulted in either busy signals or 2+ hour holds only to get disconnected. The agent was able to confirm exactly how to report my Canadian rental income and expenses on my US return, and clarified the foreign tax credit calculation I was confused about. She even emailed me the specific IRS publications that addressed my situation. I've spent literally dozens of hours trying to get this information. Wish I had known about this service years ago.

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One thing nobody has mentioned is the TFSA (Tax-Free Savings Account) in Canada vs. Roth IRA situation. This is a HUGE difference that caught me by surprise when I moved to the US from Canada. In Canada, my TFSA gains were completely tax-free. When I moved to the US, I learned the hard way that the US doesn't recognize the tax-free status of TFSAs, so I had to pay US tax on all those gains! Meanwhile, Canada DOES recognize Roth IRAs as tax-sheltered. So if you're moving from US to Canada, your Roth is generally respected, but if you're moving from Canada to US, your TFSA gets taxed. This asymmetry can be a major financial hit depending on how much you've accumulated.

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Is there any way around this? I'm moving to Seattle from Vancouver next year and have about $75k in my TFSA that I've built up over the last decade. Would hate to lose the tax advantages!

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Unfortunately, there aren't many great options. The best approach is usually to liquidate your TFSA before becoming a US tax resident, then reinvest those funds in US tax-advantaged accounts once you're established there. If you're going to maintain ties to Canada and plan to return, some people keep their TFSAs but accept they'll pay tax on the gains while in the US. The reporting is a hassle though - you'll likely need to file FBAR forms and possibly Form 8938 depending on the value, plus report any income on your US return. A cross-border tax specialist can help optimize this based on your specific situation and timeline.

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Don't forget about the GST/HST (Goods and Services Tax/Harmonized Sales Tax) in Canada vs. sales tax in the US! This actually makes a significant difference in day-to-day costs. In Canada, GST is 5% federally, plus provincial sales taxes that are either separate or harmonized with the GST. Total sales taxes range from 5% in Alberta to 15% in the Atlantic provinces. In the US, sales tax varies wildly by state and even by county/city. Some states like Oregon and New Hampshire have NO sales tax, while others like California can have combined state/local rates approaching 10%. This might not seem like a big deal compared to income tax, but on day-to-day purchases over years, it adds up to thousands of dollars difference.

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Also worth noting that Canadian sales taxes generally apply to more things than US sales taxes do. In many US states, groceries and medications are exempt, but in Canada, the exemptions tend to be narrower. Makes cost of living comparisons even more complicated!

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One major factor that hasn't been discussed yet is the Alternative Minimum Tax (AMT) differences between the two countries. In the US, AMT can catch high earners by surprise, especially those with significant deductions or stock options. At your $220k income level, you could potentially trigger AMT depending on your deduction profile. Canada eliminated their federal AMT in 2023 (though it's being reintroduced in modified form), but the calculation works very differently than the US version. Canadian AMT historically applied to fewer taxpayers but had different triggers. Also consider property taxes - they're generally much higher in Canada. For example, Toronto property taxes can be 0.6-1.2% of assessed value annually, while many Texas cities are 2-3% but on lower assessed values due to homestead exemptions. This can significantly impact your total tax burden if you're planning to buy property. The timing of when you pay taxes also differs. Canada requires more frequent installment payments for high earners, while the US allows more flexibility with quarterly estimates. Just another practical consideration for cash flow planning.

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Great point about AMT! I'm actually dealing with this right now as someone considering the move. I have significant stock options from my current employer, and my tax advisor warned me that exercising them could trigger AMT in the US. The property tax difference is something I hadn't fully considered either. I was looking at homes in Austin vs Toronto, and while the sticker prices seemed comparable when adjusted for exchange rates, those Texas property tax rates are definitely eye-opening. Though I guess the lack of state income tax helps offset that somewhat. Do you know if there are any strategies to minimize the AMT impact when transitioning between countries? I'm worried about getting hit with double taxation issues during the year I actually make the move.

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