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How do federal and state income taxes work together in the US for high earners?

I'm relocating to the US soon from a country with zero income tax and trying to figure out how the whole tax system works there. My offer is around $525,000 annually, and I'm completely lost on how state and federal taxes combine. From what I understand, federal tax would be somewhere in the 35-37% range for my income bracket? But I'm confused about how state taxes factor in. If I move to New York where I think state tax is like 10% or something, does that mean I'd be paying close to 45-47% total tax? That seems insanely high! What about if I chose to live in Texas or Florida instead? I've heard they don't have state income tax. Would that mean I'd only pay federal taxes? Sorry if these are basic questions, but coming from a place with no income tax, this is all new territory for me. Really appreciate any insights from people who understand the US tax system!

Welcome to the complicated US tax system! Let me break this down for you in simple terms: Federal taxes are paid regardless of which state you live in. For income around $525k, you'd be in the 37% federal tax bracket for 2025. But remember, this is a marginal tax system - you only pay that top rate on income above a certain threshold (currently about $578k for single filers, lower for 2025). State taxes vary dramatically. States like New York have high income taxes (up to 10.9% for high earners), while states like Florida, Texas, Nevada, Wyoming, South Dakota, Alaska, and Washington have no state income tax at all. When you live in a state with income tax, you pay both - they're separate systems. So in New York, you'd pay federal taxes plus NY state taxes. In Florida, you'd only pay federal. The good news is that you don't simply add the percentages together for your entire income because of the marginal tax brackets and various deductions available.

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But wait, I thought you could deduct state taxes paid on your federal taxes? Doesn't that reduce the overall tax burden somewhat?

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You're partially right about the state tax deduction. You can deduct state income taxes on your federal return, but it's now limited to $10,000 total for state and local taxes (SALT) combined under current tax law. For high-income earners like yourself, this cap means you won't get the full benefit of deducting all your state taxes. This $10k SALT cap is scheduled to expire after 2025, but who knows if Congress will extend it.

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One thing nobody's mentioned yet - consider CITY taxes too in your calculation! NYC has its own income tax on top of NYS taxes (around 3.8% max). So in NYC you'd be looking at federal + state + city. Philadelphia, San Francisco and some others have city taxes too. This can add up fast for high earners.

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Omg I had no idea there could be city taxes too! That's wild. Are there any no-income-tax states that also have cities with income taxes? Or should I be safe from city taxes if I go with Florida or Texas?

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Florida and Texas cities don't have income taxes, so you'd be safe there. Generally, city income taxes are mostly found in states that already have state income taxes. Tennessee and New Hampshire are interesting cases - they don't tax regular wage income at the state level, but they do tax some investment income. Neither has city income taxes though.

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Don't forget property taxes too! Texas has no state income tax but some of the highest property taxes in the country (2-3% of home value annually). Florida's are lower but still significant. New York's property taxes can be high too, especially in suburbs. With your income level, I'm guessing you'll buy rather than rent, so factor this in!

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This is super important! We moved to Texas thinking we'd save so much without state income tax, but we pay over $15k/year in property taxes on a $650k house. In some areas it's even higher! Definitely run the numbers on your specific situation.

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Something else to consider - if you're coming from a zero-tax country, you might also need to look into whether your home country has any tax obligations for residents abroad. Some countries tax worldwide income regardless of where you live, which could complicate things. Also, at your income level ($525k), you'll definitely want to work with a tax professional who understands international relocations. The interplay between federal/state taxes, potential foreign tax credits, and various deductions can get complex quickly. A good CPA who specializes in high-income earners and international moves will save you way more than their fees in optimized tax planning. One more tip - if you do choose a no-income-tax state like Florida or Texas, make sure you establish proper residency there (driver's license, voter registration, etc.) to avoid any questions from high-tax states about where you're actually domiciled for tax purposes.

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This is really solid advice, especially about establishing proper residency! I've seen people get burned by states like California or New York claiming they're still residents even after moving to no-tax states. They can be pretty aggressive about auditing high earners who relocate. @fb0860042981 Do you know what specific steps are most important for establishing residency? I'm thinking driver's license and voter registration like you mentioned, but are there other things that carry more weight if you get audited? Also, the point about home country tax obligations is huge - some people don't realize they might still owe taxes to their original country even as a US resident. Definitely worth checking before making the move!

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