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How do federal and state income taxes work together for high earners in the US?

I'm relocating to the US in about 6 months from Dubai (zero income tax). My new position will pay around $450,000 annually. I'm trying to wrap my head around how the American tax system works between federal and state taxes. From what I've researched, I think federal tax on my income would be somewhere in the 35% bracket? But I'm confused about how state taxes fit in. If I settle in New York where I've heard state income tax is around 10-12%, does that mean I'd be handing over nearly 47% of my earnings to various governments? That seems incredibly high! Alternatively, I've been considering Texas or Florida since friends mentioned they don't have state income taxes. Would I only be responsible for federal taxes in those states? Also wondering if there are any specific tax considerations for someone moving from a tax-free country into the US system that I should be aware of. Would really appreciate some guidance on how this all works together. Thanks in advance!

The US has a tiered tax system where both federal and state governments can tax your income separately. Here's how it works: For federal taxes, you'll pay different rates on different portions of your income (not 35% on all of it). For 2025, earning $450k, you'll likely be in the 35% marginal bracket, but your effective federal tax rate will be lower - probably around 25-28% after deductions and credits. State taxes work completely independently. In states like New York, you'd pay additional state income tax (with rates that also increase with income). But you're right that Texas and Florida have no state income tax, so you'd only pay federal taxes. The good news is that you don't simply add the percentages together. State income taxes are actually deductible on your federal return (up to $10,000), which slightly reduces the combined impact. As someone moving from a tax-free country, you should be aware that the US taxes worldwide income for residents. You'll need to establish residency properly and may have reporting requirements for foreign accounts through FBAR and FATCA.

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Thanks for the explanation! Quick question - if I move mid-year from Dubai to the US, do I only pay US taxes on income earned while physically in the US? Or does it matter when I officially become a resident? Also, what's this FBAR thing you mentioned?

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You generally only pay US taxes on income earned while you're a US resident, so timing your move can make a difference. If you become a US resident halfway through the year, you'd file a "dual-status" tax return, reporting only US-source income for the part of the year you weren't a resident. FBAR (Foreign Bank Account Report) is a required filing if you have foreign financial accounts with a combined value over $10,000 at any point during the year. It's separate from your tax return and submitted directly to FinCEN. There are significant penalties for not filing, so definitely don't overlook this if you'll maintain accounts in Dubai.

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One thing nobody has mentioned yet is that some states have reciprocity agreements if you live in one state but work in another. This probably won't apply to your situation initially, but if you end up living near a state border (like NJ/NY or MD/DC), you'll want to understand how this works. Also, don't overlook city taxes! NYC has its own income tax on top of NY state taxes. Philadelphia has one too. These can add another 3-4% to your tax burden that people often forget about when comparing locations.

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Wait, CITIES can tax you too?? So potentially federal + state + city all taking a cut? Are there any other levels of government that can tax income that I should know about?

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Yes, some cities definitely have their own income taxes! NYC is probably the most notable example with rates up to 3.876% depending on your income level. Philadelphia, San Francisco, and many Ohio cities also have local income taxes. There aren't other levels of government that tax income directly, but don't forget about property taxes if you're buying a home - those vary enormously by location too and can make a huge difference in your overall cost of living.

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when i moved from qatar (also no income tax) to the US last year, the biggest shock wasn't even the income tax - it was realizing how many OTHER taxes there are!!! sales tax, property tax, medicare tax, social security tax... my advice - if your company offers any tax preparation assistance as part of relocation, TAKE IT. or at minimum, work with a cpa who specializes in expats moving to the US for your first year. there's so many forms and deadlines and rules that aren't obvious.

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So true! I moved from UAE and was shocked my first time shopping when the register showed more than the price tag. And don't forget about the self-employment tax (15.3%) if you do any consulting work on the side!

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Coming from a zero-tax environment myself (moved from UAE two years ago), I can tell you the sticker shock is real but manageable once you understand the system. A few key points that helped me: 1. Don't just look at the tax rates - consider the total cost of living. Yes, you'll pay more in taxes in NY vs Texas, but factor in things like housing costs, transportation, and quality of life. 2. Max out your 401(k) contributions ($23,000 for 2024, or $30,500 if you're over 50). This reduces your taxable income significantly and is money you should be saving anyway. 3. If your company offers HSA (Health Savings Account), use it! Triple tax advantage - deductible going in, grows tax-free, and tax-free withdrawals for medical expenses. 4. Consider the timing of your move carefully. If you arrive in the US in July, you'll only be taxed on US income from July onward, which can make a big difference in your first year. The transition is definitely an adjustment, but the earning potential and career opportunities in the US often make up for the higher tax burden. Just make sure to get professional tax advice for your specific situation - it's worth the investment!

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