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Keisha Robinson

Help with W-4 adjustments after unexpected $10K federal tax bill - how to fix for next year?

So here's our situation and I'm desperate to figure out what went wrong with our withholding and how to fix our W-4 forms to prevent this disaster from happening again, especially since we're expecting our first baby next month. I'll use approximate numbers to keep it simple. We're married filing jointly: - My annual salary: $135,000 - Federal withholding on my paychecks: $13,200 - My husband's salary: $127,000 - Federal withholding from his paychecks: $13,600 I filled out my W-4 using the 2(c) checkbox for couples with similar incomes, but when we reviewed my husband's W-4 tonight, we discovered he never checked that box! Nothing was selected in Section 2 on his form. Could this be why we're stuck with such a huge tax bill? Is this the reason we owe almost $10K to the IRS?? We're completely shocked to owe this much in federal taxes when we thought we were doing the right thing with the 2(c) "similar pay" withholding option. I don't understand why we're short about $5K from what should have been withheld from the beginning. Now I'm wondering if we need to switch to the 2(b) and 4(c) options based on the withholding tables. But if we do that, would I need to have about $750 extra withheld per paycheck? And would my husband need to put the same $750 extra withholding amount on his W-4 under 4(c)? ANY advice would be incredibly helpful! Really trying to avoid going through this nightmare again next year, especially with a baby on the way!

Paolo Conti

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The issue is definitely with both of you not having the 2(c) box checked. When only one spouse checks it, the system doesn't properly account for the "marriage tax penalty" that can occur with similar high incomes. Here's what happened: When only one of you checked 2(c), your employer withheld taxes as if your income was the only substantial income in the household. Same for your husband's employer. But when you file jointly, your combined income pushes you into a higher tax bracket, causing the shortfall. For your situation, I'd recommend against using 2(c) entirely. The better approach is using option 2(b) on both W-4s and then adding extra withholding in Step 4(c). Based on your approximate numbers, each of you should add about $425 extra withholding per paycheck if paid monthly (adjust accordingly if paid bi-weekly or weekly). Remember to account for the child tax credit for next year! You'll qualify for the credit with your new baby, which will reduce your tax liability. When you complete new W-4s, make sure to check Step 3 and include the credit amount you're eligible for.

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Thank you for explaining this so clearly! So if we're both paid bi-weekly (26 paychecks per year), would we each need to put about $200 in box 4(c) instead of the $425 you mentioned for monthly? Also, do we both need to do this or just one of us? And will this completely solve the problem or should we expect to still owe some amount next year?

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Paolo Conti

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For bi-weekly pay, you'd want roughly $200 per paycheck in box 4(c) for each of you. This would add up to about $5,200 additional withholding per year from each of you, which should cover the $10K shortfall you experienced. You should both make this adjustment on your W-4s for the most balanced approach. Having just one of you do it would work mathematically, but could create cash flow issues if that person leaves their job or has a gap in employment.

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Amina Sow

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GalaxyGazer

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Oliver Wagner

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Malik Davis

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Don't forget that having a baby will change your tax situation significantly! With your income levels, you'll qualify for the Child Tax Credit which is worth up to $2,000 per child. Make sure you account for this when adjusting your W-4. You can claim this credit directly on your W-4 in Step 3. Since you're having the baby this year, you'll get the full credit for 2025 taxes. This will effectively reduce the amount you need to withhold. Also, check if your employers offer Dependent Care FSAs - you can put up to $5,000 pre-tax toward childcare expenses, which could save you an additional $1,100+ in taxes depending on your bracket.

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Thank you for mentioning this! With the baby coming next month, I completely forgot to factor in how that would affect our taxes next year. Would you recommend we split the $2,000 child tax credit between both our W-4 forms or put the full amount on just one of our forms? Also, do you know if we qualify for the child care tax credit as well as the dependent care FSA? Or can we only use one of those options?

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Malik Davis

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You can put the full $2,000 on just one W-4 form, or split it between both - the end result will be the same. Just make sure you don't claim it on both forms (which would incorrectly double-count the credit). Regarding the child care tax credit vs. dependent care FSA: You can potentially use both, but there's an important limitation. The expenses you pay through the FSA cannot also be used for the child care credit - no "double dipping." Usually, with your income level, the FSA is more beneficial because it reduces your taxable income directly. The child care credit percentage is reduced at higher income levels, making the FSA more valuable for most dual-income professional couples.

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I think everyone is missing an important point - the OP and spouse have similar incomes around $130k each, so their combined income is pushing $260k. At that level, they're getting hit with higher marginal tax rates that the W-4 calculator doesn't always handle well for dual-income couples. Another factor to consider is whether you're maxing out your 401k contributions. If not, increasing those contributions would reduce your taxable income and potentially lower your tax bill significantly. At your income level, each of you could contribute up to $23,000 (2024 limit), potentially saving thousands in taxes while building retirement savings.

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StarStrider

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This is spot on. My wife and I have almost identical incomes to the OP, and increasing our 401k contributions made a huge difference. We each increased from 10% to 15% contributions and it dropped our tax bill by almost $3,000. Plus that money is growing tax-deferred instead of going to the IRS. Also worth noting that at their income level, they might be close to the phase-out range for some tax benefits once the baby arrives, so tax planning becomes even more important.

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