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Justin Trejo

Changed W-4 to Married Filing Status with 0 Dependents and Our Paychecks Increased, but Now We Owe $3900 in Taxes

We're totally blindsided by our tax situation this year. My husband makes around $110k and I make about $95k annually. No children in our household. Last year, my husband switched from Single with 1 allowance to Married with 0 dependents on his W-4, and suddenly his paycheck jumped by $230 each pay period (we get paid twice monthly). So basically an extra $460 monthly in his pocket! When I saw that, I made the same change in my W-4 about 5 months later and my paycheck increased by about $150 each pay period, giving us an additional $300 monthly. He made his W-4 change around February 2023, and I updated mine in July. We just filed our taxes and were SHOCKED to find out we owe $3900! And on top of that, there was a $50 underpayment penalty tacked on. Like, how is that fair when we were just following the options on the W-4 form? We've always gotten refunds before this - usually around $1,200-1,800. I'm worried that if we keep our W-4s as Married with 0 dependents for all of 2025, we'll end up owing way more next tax season. How do we fix this situation? I'm thinking we need to adjust our W-4s and probably have additional withholding? But how much extra should we withhold? Should we just go back to filing as Single? Any advice would be really appreciated!

This is actually a common misunderstanding with the W-4 form. When you select "Married" on your W-4, the withholding tables assume you're the only income earner in the household OR that your spouse makes very little. For two-income households with similar earnings like yours, this creates significant underwithholding. The IRS actually addresses this on the W-4 form, but it's easy to miss. You have a few options to fix this: 1. Both of you could switch to "Married, but withhold at higher Single rate" on your W-4s. This option was specifically created for dual-income married couples. 2. Keep the "Married" status but complete Step 2 of the W-4 form (the multiple jobs worksheet) to calculate additional withholding. 3. Use the IRS Tax Withholding Estimator (available on irs.gov) which will give you precise recommendations based on your specific situation. As for the underpayment penalty, unfortunately the IRS doesn't consider "I didn't understand the form" as reasonable cause. The penalty applies when you underpay by a certain threshold regardless of intent.

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Is there a big difference between "Married, but withhold at higher Single rate" vs just going back to "Single"? I'm in a similar situation and confused about which option is better.

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Married, but withhold at higher Single" rate "and" Single withholding are very similar mathematically, but'there s an important distinction. "The Married, but withhold at higher Single" rate option allows you to maintain your correct filing status while adjusting your withholding appropriately. This helps avoid confusion about your actual tax filing status. If you simply "select" Single when'you re married, it could potentially cause confusion during tax time or with HR departments. The IRS created "the Married, but withhold at higher Single" rate specifically to address dual-income married couples while maintaining clarity about your actual maritalstatus.

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How accurate was it? I've tried those tax calculators on the IRS website before and the numbers were way off from what we actually ended up owing.

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This exact thing happened to me and my husband! It's SO frustrating how unclear the W-4 is. One thing nobody mentioned here yet - you can also just specify an additional dollar amount to withhold on line 4(c) of the W-4. For us, we calculated that we were underwithholding by about $400/month total, so we each put an extra $200 per month on line 4(c). So every paycheck (we get paid biweekly), we have an extra $92 withheld. You might want to also look at your state withholding forms too. We were underwithholding at both federal and state levels.

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Thank you for this suggestion! Do you know if there's an easy way to calculate exactly how much extra we should withhold? I'm worried about overwithholding too much and giving the government an interest-free loan, but obviously don't want another tax bill shock.

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The most straightforward way to calculate your additional withholding is to take the amount you owed this year ($3900), add any expected income increases for next year, and divide by the number of pay periods remaining in the year. For example, if you both get paid twice a month (24 pay periods per year), and you start in April with 18 pay periods remaining, you'd need approximately $217 additional withholding per pay period ($3900 ÷ 18). You could split this between your W-4s. If you're concerned about overwithholding, you can be a bit more conservative with the extra amount. Remember you can always submit a new W-4 partway through the year if you find you're still not withholding enough.

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Everyone is making this more complicated than it needs to be. Just go back to withholding at the Single rate. That's what my wife and I do. We both select "Married but withhold at higher Single rate" and we get a small refund every year. The "Married" withholding rate assumes your spouse doesn't work or makes very little. So when both spouses work and make similar amounts, you're going to drastically underwithhold if you both select just "Married.

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This is the correct answer! My wife and I both make around $100k and we've always used "Married but withhold at higher Single rate" without any issues. The regular "Married" option only works if one spouse doesn't work or makes significantly less.

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