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Why are we owing so much more on taxes this year despite withholding changes?

My husband and I are completely baffled by our tax situation this year. Last year we owed $2,300, so we both adjusted our W-4 forms to increase our withholding. I thought that would fix the problem, but now we owe $5,400!!! My husband is totally freaking out. Here's a breakdown of our financial situation: Me: - Wages: $132,450 - Medicare wages/tips: $141,200 - Federal tax withheld: $15,300 - SS tax withheld: $8,750 - Medicare tax withheld: $2,050 - Group term life insurance: $170 - 401K contributions: $8,200 - Employer health coverage: $10,250 Husband: - Wages: $98,200 - Medicare wages/tips: $98,200 - Federal tax withheld: $10,700 - SS tax withheld: $6,090 - Medicare tax withheld: $1,425 - Group term life insurance: $65 - Roth 401K contributions: $6,000 - Employer health coverage: $11,500 He also had: - Interest income: $7 - Dividend income: $2,715 - Capital losses: -$1,670 We have a house but our itemized deductions only came to about $21K so we took the standard deduction. Our total tax came to $31,600 Income tax withheld: $26,000 Amount we owe: $5,400 Does anything look weird here? Should we consider filing separately? I'm wondering if his Roth 401K would be taxed at a lower bracket if he files alone. We're trying to find a CPA who can see us before the deadline, but if that doesn't work out I'm thinking we should just pay the $5,400 and file an extension to figure things out. The timing couldn't be worse - we have our first baby coming in a few months and my husband is stressing about this unexpected tax hit. We have enough in savings to cover it, but I'd love to find ways to reduce what we owe. I'm worried we just didn't withhold enough despite the W-4 changes. Any advice would be greatly appreciated!

The issue doesn't seem to be anything unusual in your tax situation, but rather insufficient withholding for your combined income level. When both spouses work, the W-4 calculations can get tricky because each employer only knows about the income they're paying you, not your total household income. Looking at your numbers, your combined income puts you in a higher tax bracket, but your individual withholdings might be calculated at lower rates. The Roth 401k contributions your husband is making are with after-tax dollars, so those aren't reducing your current tax liability (though they're great for future tax-free growth). For immediate action, paying the amount due and filing an extension is reasonable if you can't get a CPA appointment soon. However, an extension only gives you more time to file, not more time to pay. For the longer term, you should both update your W-4 forms again and check the box for "two jobs" or "spouse works" in Step 2, or use the IRS withholding calculator to get more precise numbers. You might also consider making quarterly estimated tax payments to cover any gap. Filing separately rarely benefits married couples with similar incomes and no unusual deductions or credits, but a CPA could evaluate your specific situation.

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Thank you for the explanation! We did check the "spouse works" box on our W-4s last year when we made the adjustment, but maybe we didn't account for something else. Do you think we should increase the additional withholding amount on Line 4(c) of our W-4s? And if so, how do we calculate how much extra to withhold?

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Yes, increasing the additional withholding on Line 4(c) would help. To calculate how much extra to withhold, take the amount you owed ($5,400), divide by the number of pay periods remaining in the year, and split between both of your W-4s. For example, if you each get paid twice a month, and there are 16 pay periods left in the year, you might each add about $170 extra per paycheck ($5,400 ÷ 16 ÷ 2). For a more precise calculation, use the IRS Tax Withholding Estimator at irs.gov/individuals/tax-withholding-estimator. Input all your income sources, current withholding, and deductions, and it will recommend exactly how to adjust your W-4s. Just remember to revisit this after your baby arrives, as you'll qualify for additional tax benefits.

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How exactly does the analysis work? Does it just look at your withholding or does it also suggest deductions and credits you might be missing? My situation sounds similar to the original poster's.

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I'm skeptical of tax tools like this. How is it different from just using the IRS withholding calculator? And does it actually connect to your payroll system to make changes or do you still have to do that manually?

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Have you looked at whether you're hitting the Social Security tax cap? For 2025, the Social Security wage base limit is $168,600. If your combined incomes are higher than the cap, you might be overwithholding on Social Security at one job. It doesn't look like either of you individually is over the cap based on the numbers you shared, but something to consider for future planning. Also, consider adjusting your tax withholdings for the baby's arrival. You'll be eligible for the Child Tax Credit which could be worth up to $2,000, depending on your income. This could help offset some of your tax burden next year.

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That's good to know about the Social Security cap, though like you said we're both under it individually. I didn't realize the Child Tax Credit could be that significant! Would we need to adjust our W-4s again after the baby is born to account for the credit, or does that automatically reduce what we owe at tax time?

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You'd need to update your W-4s again after the baby is born to account for the Child Tax Credit. It doesn't happen automatically during the year - it would only reduce what you owe when you file your taxes otherwise. On your W-4, you would indicate the dependent in Step 3, which would then reduce your withholding throughout the remainder of the year. When you update your W-4s, you'll probably want to do it soon after the baby is born to maximize the withholding adjustment for the rest of the year. Just be aware that the Child Tax Credit begins to phase out at higher income levels (starts phasing out at $400,000 for married filing jointly), but based on your income you should still qualify for at least a partial credit.

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I'd strongly recommend switching to scheduled quarterly estimated tax payments rather than trying to get withholding perfect. My spouse and I have similar incomes to yours, and we always owed at tax time until we started doing this. We calculate approx 25% of our projected annual tax and make quarterly payments directly to the IRS (due April 15, June 15, Sept 15, and Jan 15). It's way easier than constantly adjusting W-4s, especially with a baby on the way which will change your tax situation again.

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I second this approach. With our W-2 income plus investment income, quarterly estimated payments have been a lifesaver. The peace of mind knowing we won't have a surprise tax bill is worth the extra effort. Just make sure you're paying at least 100% of last year's tax liability (or 110% if your AGI was over $150,000) to avoid underpayment penalties.

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