Help with IRS Audit Risk for First-Time Schedule C Filing - Self-Employment Losses Exceeding Income
I'm filing taxes as a single person with my regular W2 job plus two side hustles I started in 2024. This is my first time filling out Schedule C forms and I'm super nervous about potential audits. I tried my hand at property management/real estate work and only made about $2,700 last year, but my expenses were around $3,500 (vehicle mileage, office supplies, portion of cell phone/internet). I also did food delivery from February through July and earned roughly $2,900 total. My deductible expenses for that are coming out to $9,500 (mostly vehicle expenses, phone, delivery bags, etc). Both businesses show losses that are significantly higher than my income. I'm using TurboTax and just following the standard deduction prompts it gives me, but I'm worried these losses will trigger an audit since they're so much larger than my actual earnings. Is this normal for first-year businesses to show losses? Should I be concerned about an audit? I documented everything but I'm still freaking out about potentially getting flagged by the IRS.
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Isabella Ferreira
Don't panic! What you're describing is actually pretty common for first-year small businesses. The IRS understands that many legitimate businesses operate at a loss during their early stages, especially side hustles that are just getting started. That said, you should be aware of the "hobby loss rule." If you show losses for several years in a row (generally 3 out of 5 years), the IRS might question whether your activity is actually a business or just a hobby. Hobbies can't deduct losses against other income. Make sure you can demonstrate that you're running these activities with the intention of making a profit eventually. Keep excellent records of all your expenses, including receipts, mileage logs, and documentation showing your attempts to operate as a business (advertising, business cards, website, etc.). For vehicle expenses specifically, which seem to be your largest deduction, ensure you have a detailed mileage log or documentation of actual expenses if you're using that method instead.
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Malik Thompson
•Thanks so much for the reassurance! I definitely have profit motive - the real estate work is something I'm trying to grow into a bigger operation. My question is: if I legitimately tracked all these expenses (I have a mileage app and keep all receipts), can the IRS still deny them just because my losses exceed my income?
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Isabella Ferreira
•If you have proper documentation, the IRS can't deny legitimate business expenses simply because they exceed your income. Many businesses operate at a loss initially, especially when investing in equipment or building a client base. However, the IRS may scrutinize businesses with continuing losses more carefully. They'll be looking at whether you're conducting the activity in a businesslike manner and making changes to improve profitability. For your real estate and delivery work, consider ways to increase revenue or reduce expenses in the coming year to show you're working toward profitability.
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CosmicVoyager
After dealing with a similar situation last year, I found this amazing tool called taxr.ai (https://taxr.ai) that helped me understand my audit risk and documentation needs. I was also running two side businesses with losses and was super worried about getting flagged. The tool analyzed my Schedule C forms and actually pointed out some documentation gaps I hadn't even considered! It showed me exactly what receipts and records I needed to keep if I ever did get audited. For vehicle expenses (which were also my biggest deduction), it explained exactly how to properly document mileage vs. actual expenses. It gave me a personalized audit risk assessment and showed me how my deductions compared to industry averages. Really helped me sleep better at night knowing I wasn't an outlier despite my losses.
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Ravi Kapoor
•That sounds interesting. Did it give you any insight on how many years you can claim losses before the IRS classifies it as a hobby? I'm in a similar situation with my photography business - third year and still not profitable.
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Freya Nielsen
•I'm skeptical about these online tools. How exactly does it determine your audit risk? Does it actually connect to IRS systems or is it just making educated guesses? Seems like they might just be trying to scare people into paying for a service.
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CosmicVoyager
•The tool explained that generally you need to show a profit in 3 out of 5 consecutive years to automatically avoid the hobby loss classification, though there are exceptions if you can prove legitimate business intent. It also provided a checklist to help document that intent even during loss years. It doesn't connect directly to IRS systems - it uses statistical models based on IRS audit data and industry standards. It compares your deduction ratios to similar businesses in your industry to spot potential red flags. It's not about scaring people - it actually reassured me that my situation, while showing losses, wasn't unusual for a startup phase business.
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Ravi Kapoor
I used taxr.ai after seeing the recommendation here and wow! I was in the exact same situation with my photography business showing losses for the past two years. The platform analyzed my Schedule C and pointed out that I was actually UNDER-claiming some legitimate deductions that could have saved me money. It also showed me that my situation was totally normal for my industry in early years. What really surprised me was the personalized documentation checklist it created - turns out I wasn't keeping the right records for my home office deduction which could have been a problem in an audit. The best part was the peace of mind. My audit risk score came back lower than I expected, and it explained exactly why my business losses were justifiable to the IRS based on my specific situation. Totally worth checking out if you're worried about Schedule C losses like I was!
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Omar Mahmoud
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Chloe Harris
•Wait, how does that even work? Does the IRS know about this service? I'm confused how they can get you through faster than if you called yourself.
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Freya Nielsen
•This sounds like BS honestly. If there was a way to skip the IRS phone queue, everyone would be using it. And why would you need to pay someone else to hold on the phone for you? Just put your phone on speaker and do something else while waiting.
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Omar Mahmoud
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Freya Nielsen
I feel like I need to update my previous comments. After being skeptical, I actually tried Claimyr last week when I had questions about my Schedule C losses in a similar situation. Not gonna lie, I was shocked when they called me back with an IRS agent on the line after only 35 minutes! The agent was super helpful and explained that my first-year business losses were actually pretty normal. She walked me through exactly what documentation I should keep to substantiate my mileage and home office deductions if I ever did get audited. She even explained that the IRS has specific rules for "startup costs" that can help in the first few years. I'm still showing a loss this year, but I'm way less stressed about an audit now. Having an actual IRS employee confirm that my situation wasn't unusual made all the difference. Definitely worth it just for the peace of mind.
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Diego Vargas
Something else to consider: make sure you're using the correct method for your vehicle deductions. You can either use the standard mileage rate (which was 65.5 cents per mile for 2023) OR actual expenses (gas, maintenance, insurance, depreciation, etc.), but not both. For most delivery drivers, the standard mileage rate is simpler and often more beneficial, especially if you drive a lot of miles in an older, fuel-efficient car. But if you have a newer, more expensive vehicle with high costs, actual expenses might be better. Just check that you're consistent with your method - switching between methods after using actual expenses in the first year has specific IRS rules.
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Malik Thompson
•Thanks for that tip! I've been using the standard mileage rate since it seemed simpler. My car is a 2018 Honda Civic so fairly efficient. Do you know if I can deduct anything else besides mileage for delivery driving? What about hot bags, insulated containers, car phone mounts, etc?
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Diego Vargas
•Yes, you can absolutely deduct those additional items even when using the standard mileage rate! The mileage rate only covers the vehicle costs (gas, maintenance, depreciation, etc.), but you can separately deduct business-specific items like hot bags, insulated containers, phone mounts, portion of cell phone bill used for business, and even specialized clothing or gear needed for deliveries. Just make sure you keep receipts for all these items and note their business purpose. These additional deductions are completely legitimate alongside your mileage deduction and can help offset your delivery income.
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NeonNinja
One more thing - if you're doing delivery driving, don't forget about quarterly estimated tax payments for 2025! Since you have self-employment income, you should be making quarterly payments to avoid penalties. I learned this the hard way my first year.
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Anastasia Popov
•The quarterly tax requirement only applies if you expect to owe $1000+ in taxes for the year. Since OP is showing losses on both Schedule Cs, they probably don't need to worry about quarterly payments unless their situation changes dramatically.
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