Can I get a tax refund for my business loss this year? First time filer question
So this is my first year filing taxes as a business owner and honestly it's been a rough start. I sank close to $5000 into getting my small consulting business off the ground but barely made any revenue. Most of my expenses went to business liability insurance, equipment, marketing materials, and I spent a ridiculous amount of time and money trying to recruit freelancers for some projects that fell through. The business basically operated at a complete loss. I've always filed my personal taxes with no issues, but this business situation is new territory for me. I'm wondering if I'll actually get some money back when I file taxes because of these business losses? Or am I still going to owe something to the IRS despite making no profit? Also, would TurboTax be sufficient for handling this kind of business loss situation or should I look into something more specialized? Thanks for any help!
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Marcus Patterson
You can absolutely claim your business losses against your other income! This is actually one of the benefits of operating your own business - when you have a loss year, those losses can offset other income you earned, potentially reducing your overall tax burden. Since you mentioned spending money on business insurance, equipment, and other legitimate business expenses while actually trying to operate a business (even though it didn't generate revenue yet), these are generally deductible business expenses. When your expenses exceed your income, you have what's called a "net operating loss" or NOL. For a small business, TurboTax should be adequate for your situation. Just make sure you use the version that supports filing Schedule C (Profit or Loss from Business), which is where you'll report your business activity. The software will walk you through entering your business income (even if zero) and all your expenses, then calculate the loss.
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Lydia Bailey
•Thanks for the info! Quick follow-up question - does it matter if my business isn't officially registered as an LLC? I've been operating basically as a sole proprietor. Also, are there any limits to how much of a business loss I can claim in the first year?
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Marcus Patterson
•Being a sole proprietor is completely fine! You don't need an LLC to claim business losses. As a sole proprietor, you'll still file Schedule C with your personal tax return to report your business income and expenses. For most situations, there isn't a specific limit on the amount of business loss you can claim in your first year as long as the expenses are legitimate and reasonable for your type of business. However, the IRS does have "hobby loss" rules - they want to see that you're genuinely trying to make a profit rather than just writing off expenses for a hobby. Since you mentioned spending on business insurance and trying to hire people, that suggests a legitimate profit motive, which helps your case.
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Mateo Warren
After reading about your situation, I totally understand the stress of a first-year business loss. I went through something similar last year with my e-commerce startup. I spent thousands on inventory, website development, and marketing but barely made any sales that first year. I discovered this AI tax tool called taxr.ai (https://taxr.ai) that was super helpful for my situation. It specifically helped me identify all the deductible business expenses I hadn't even considered - like a portion of my internet bill and home office deduction. It analyzed my previous returns and business documents and pointed out several additional write-offs that I missed when I tried doing it myself. Since you're dealing with business losses, it might be worth checking out. It helped me properly document my business losses so they could offset my other income, which resulted in a decent refund that I wouldn't have gotten otherwise.
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Sofia Price
•How does this compare to TurboTax? Does it actually file your taxes or just give you advice on what to claim? I've been using HR Block but I'm curious about more specialized options.
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Alice Coleman
•I'm always skeptical about these AI tax tools. Does it actually understand complex business situations or is it just basic advice? My concern would be whether it knows the difference between legitimate business expenses vs hobby expenses since the IRS scrutinizes first-year losses.
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Mateo Warren
•It doesn't file your taxes like TurboTax does - it's more of an analyzer that reviews your documents and situation before you file. I still used TurboTax to actually submit my return, but taxr.ai helped me identify what I should be including when I did the filing. It's like having a tax professional review everything before you submit. The AI is pretty sophisticated with business expenses. It asked specific questions about my business activities to distinguish between hobby and legitimate business operations. It flagged certain expenses that might raise red flags with the IRS and suggested better documentation for others. For my situation with a first-year loss, it helped me organize my expenses in a way that clearly showed business intent rather than just hobby spending.
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Alice Coleman
I wanted to follow up about my experience with taxr.ai after being skeptical initially. I decided to give it a try with my small photography business that also operated at a loss last year. I was genuinely surprised by how thorough it was! The system asked really specific questions about my business plan, future profit expectations, and the nature of my expenses. It helped me properly categorize all my camera equipment, editing software, and marketing costs. What really impressed me was how it identified several deductions I had no idea about - like being able to deduct certain travel expenses to photo locations and some professional development courses I took. After using their recommendations, I filed through TurboTax and ended up getting back almost $2,300 more than I expected. Definitely worth checking out if you're dealing with business losses.
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Owen Jenkins
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Lilah Brooks
•How does this service work? I've been on hold with the IRS for 3 hours yesterday and they closed before anyone picked up. Does this really get you through faster or is it just another paid service that doesn't deliver?
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Jackson Carter
•This sounds like complete BS honestly. Nobody can magically skip the IRS phone queue. They probably just keep calling over and over using bots until they get through, which is something anyone could do. I don't believe for a second they got you through in 15 minutes when the average wait time is 2+ hours.
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Owen Jenkins
•It uses a callback system that monitors the IRS phone lines and calls when wait times are shortest. When a spot opens up, it calls you and connects you directly to the agent. It's not "skipping" the line - it's just finding the optimal time to call and handling the waiting for you. I was skeptical too before trying it. I don't know exactly how their technology works, but the results speak for themselves. I had tried calling on my own for three days straight with no luck. With Claimyr, I was talking to an actual IRS agent the same day. Maybe I got lucky with the timing, but it worked exactly as advertised for me.
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Jackson Carter
I need to eat my words about Claimyr. After my skeptical comment, I was desperate to get through to the IRS about an audit notice for my business losses from last year. Against my better judgment, I tried the service. I'm shocked to admit it worked exactly as advertised. I got a call back in about 20 minutes saying they had an IRS agent on the line. The agent answered all my questions about documenting my business losses and confirmed that my home office expenses were calculated correctly. The peace of mind from speaking directly with the IRS instead of relying on internet advice was honestly worth it. They were able to confirm that my business loss deduction was legitimate since I had proper documentation showing business intent. No more worrying about potential audit flags!
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Kolton Murphy
As an accountant who works with small businesses, I see this situation all the time. Some additional points to consider: 1. Make sure you're keeping meticulous records of all business expenses. The IRS tends to scrutinize first-year business losses more carefully. 2. The "hobby loss" rule means the IRS expects you to show a profit in 3 out of 5 consecutive years. If not, they may reclassify your business as a hobby, which severely limits deductions. 3. For TurboTax, get the Self-Employed version specifically. The cheaper versions won't handle Schedule C properly. 4. Consider carrying forward some losses to future years instead of claiming everything this year, especially if your other income is low.
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Evelyn Rivera
•Is it better to file as a sole proprietor or an LLC for tax purposes when you have a loss? I always hear conflicting information about this.
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Kolton Murphy
•For tax purposes, a single-member LLC and a sole proprietorship are treated identically unless you elect different tax treatment. Both file Schedule C with your personal return. The LLC provides liability protection (which is a legal benefit, not a tax benefit), but doesn't change how losses are reported. The real tax difference comes if you elect S-Corp status for your LLC, but that's rarely advantageous in loss years since you'd still need to pay yourself a reasonable salary, which creates payroll tax obligations even when the business isn't profitable. For most small businesses with losses, staying as a sole proprietor or simple LLC with default tax treatment is typically the most straightforward approach.
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Julia Hall
Has anyone used FreeTaxUSA for business losses? TurboTax is crazy expensive and I've heard mixed things about their business support.
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Arjun Patel
•I used FreeTaxUSA last year for my consulting business that operated at a loss. It handled Schedule C perfectly fine and was WAY cheaper than TurboTax. The interface isn't as pretty but it asks all the same questions and properly applied my business loss against my W-2 income. Ended up with a nice refund and paid like $15 for state filing.
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Ethan Scott
I went through almost the exact same situation last year with my freelance writing business. Lost about $3,500 in the first year after expenses for software subscriptions, professional development courses, and marketing that didn't pan out. The good news is that your business losses will definitely offset your other income on your tax return. Since you're a sole proprietor, you'll file Schedule C to report your business income (even if it's zero) and all those legitimate expenses you mentioned. The net loss will reduce your overall taxable income, which should result in a refund if you had taxes withheld from other income sources. A few things that helped me: - Keep detailed records of everything - receipts, bank statements, business purpose for each expense - Document that you're genuinely trying to make a profit (save emails about client outreach, business plans, etc.) - Consider opening a separate business bank account if you haven't already to keep expenses clearly separated TurboTax Self-Employed should handle your situation fine. It walked me through all the business expense categories and automatically calculated my loss. Just make sure you're honest about the business purpose of each expense and you should be good to go!
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