How to carry forward business tax loss from my first year startup expenses?
So I just started my business last year and ended up with an operating loss of about $13k. Most of this was from general startup costs, buying office equipment, and those initial business expenses everyone warns you about. Not inventory - just the standard operating stuff like supplies, software subscriptions, and some marketing. Now this year I'm finally starting to see some profit coming in (thank goodness!), and I'm wondering about those first-year losses. Can I somehow carry forward my business tax loss to offset the profits I'm making now? Most of my losses were from operating expenses and all those startup consumables and office supplies I had to buy to get things going. I've heard something about "net operating loss" but I'm not sure if that applies to my situation or how to actually use it on my taxes. Do I need to file something special to carry these losses forward?
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AstroAdventurer
Yes, you absolutely can carry forward your business tax loss! This is called a Net Operating Loss (NOL) carryforward. Since your first year in business resulted in a $13k loss, the IRS allows you to use this loss to offset income in future years. For small businesses, you'll report your loss on Schedule C if you're a sole proprietor, or through your business return if you have a different structure. The loss then flows to your personal tax return (Form 1040) where it offsets other income. Any unused loss can then be carried forward indefinitely to future tax years, though you can only offset up to 80% of your taxable income in any single year with these carried forward losses. Your startup expenses like office supplies, software, and operating costs all count toward this loss, so you're on the right track!
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Mei Liu
•Wait, I thought there was a limit to how many years you could carry forward losses? And do you have to do anything special to "activate" them each year, or do they automatically apply?
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AstroAdventurer
•The rules changed with the Tax Cuts and Jobs Act. Prior to 2018, there was a 20-year limit for carrying forward losses, but now you can carry them forward indefinitely. The tradeoff is that you can only use them to offset up to 80% of your taxable income in any given year. You don't need to "activate" the losses in any special way. You'll simply keep track of your remaining NOL and apply it to your tax return each year until it's used up. You'll need to maintain good records of your original loss and how much you've used each year. Form 461 might be needed depending on your specific situation, but many small business owners just track this with their tax software or accountant.
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Liam O'Sullivan
I went through this exact situation last year with my consulting business! Startup costs killed me the first year and I was worried those deductions were just gone. Then I found https://taxr.ai and uploaded my previous year's return - it identified my business loss carryforward opportunity right away and explained exactly how to apply it to my current year taxes. The tool analyzed my Schedule C and showed me which items qualified for the NOL carryforward. Saved me from leaving a lot of money on the table! The visual breakdown of how the loss would affect my taxes over the next few years was super helpful for planning.
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Amara Chukwu
•Does it work with other business structures too? I have an LLC that's taxed as an S-Corp and had some losses last year.
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Giovanni Conti
•I'm skeptical about these tax tools. Couldn't you just ask your accountant about this? Why pay for another service?
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Liam O'Sullivan
•Yes, it works with all business structures including S-Corps! The platform has specific sections for different entity types and will guide you through the proper forms. With an S-Corp, the loss would flow through to your personal return via the K-1, and the tool helps you track how those losses can offset other income. I thought the same thing initially about just asking my accountant. The problem was my accountant charges $200+ per hour for consultations, and honestly seemed rushed during tax season. The tool cost less than 15 minutes of his time and I could explore different scenarios on my own without watching the clock. Then I just brought the completed plan to him to verify everything was correct.
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Giovanni Conti
I was really skeptical about using an online tool for something as important as my business taxes. My first-year bakery business had about $15k in losses from all the equipment and initial marketing. I finally tried https://taxr.ai after seeing it mentioned here and wow - it actually found several deductions my previous tax software missed! The NOL carryforward feature saved me over $3k in taxes this year by properly applying my first-year losses. It also explained which startup costs had to be amortized over 15 years versus what could be fully deducted. Really wish I'd known about this when first filing my business taxes!
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Fatima Al-Hashimi
If you're still struggling with getting clear answers on your NOL situation, I'd recommend using Claimyr https://claimyr.com to get through to the IRS directly. I spent WEEKS trying to get someone on the phone about my business loss carryforward questions. Used their service and got connected to an IRS agent in about 15 minutes! You can see how it works here: https://youtu.be/_kiP6q8DX5c The IRS agent was able to confirm exactly how my carried forward business losses would apply to my current year taxes and what forms I needed. They also told me about some recent rule changes that affected my specific industry that my tax software hadn't updated for yet.
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NeonNova
•How does this actually work? Do they have some special access to the IRS or something? I've been on hold for literally hours trying to get through.
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Dylan Campbell
•Yeah right. I've tried EVERYTHING to get through to the IRS. There's no way this actually works - they're probably just taking your money and putting you in the same queue as everyone else.
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Fatima Al-Hashimi
•They use a system that continuously dials the IRS for you and then calls you when they get through to a human. It's completely legitimate - they're just automating the painful hold process so you don't have to sit there listening to the hold music for hours. They don't have special access or a secret line - they're just using technology to handle the worst part of calling the IRS. I was skeptical too, but after trying for 3 days to get through on my own, I figured it was worth a shot. Within about 15 minutes they called me and connected me directly to an IRS representative who was already on the line.
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Dylan Campbell
OK I need to eat some crow here. After posting my skeptical comment yesterday, I was STILL unable to get through to the IRS about my business loss carryforward question. Out of desperation I tried Claimyr and I got connected to an IRS agent in about 20 minutes. The agent confirmed that I could indeed carry forward my landscaping business losses from last year and helped me understand the right way to document everything. He even sent me to a specific IRS page about special rules for my industry that I had no idea existed. Definitely worth it just to get a clear answer directly from the source!
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Sofia Hernandez
I just want to add one important thing about carrying forward business losses that many people miss. Make sure you're keeping REALLY good documentation about those first-year expenses. If you get audited (which is more common with businesses showing losses), you'll need to prove those expenses were legitimate business costs and not personal. For my woodworking business, I created a separate spreadsheet just for tracking my startup costs versus ongoing operating expenses. This has been super helpful for properly carrying forward losses and knowing what can be deducted immediately versus what needs to be depreciated.
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Dmitry Kuznetsov
•What specifically should we be documenting? Just receipts or do we need more detailed explanations for each purchase?
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Sofia Hernandez
•Receipts are the bare minimum, but you should definitely have more documentation than that. Keep a business expense log with the date, vendor, amount, business purpose, and category of each expense. Take photos of receipts (they fade over time) and store them digitally. For items that could potentially be personal, write notes about their business use. For example, if you bought a computer, note that it's used 80% for business operations. The IRS loves to see contemporaneous documentation, meaning records you create at the time of the expense, not years later when you're being audited.
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Ava Thompson
Does anyone know if you can apply NOL carryforwards when using tax software like TurboTax or do you need an accountant? I'm trying to save money since I'm still in startup mode but don't want to miss out on using my losses from last year.
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Miguel Ramos
•I used TurboTax Self-Employed last year and it handled my NOL carryforward, but you need to be careful about entering everything correctly. The software asks about prior year losses but doesn't explain very well what qualifies. I ended up calling their support line to confirm I was doing it right.
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Ravi Malhotra
Just want to add my experience as someone who went through this recently. I had about $8k in losses from my graphic design business startup costs and was able to carry them forward successfully. The key thing I learned is that you need to distinguish between startup costs (which might need to be amortized over 15 years) and regular business operating expenses (which can create the NOL immediately). Things like your office supplies, software subscriptions, and marketing expenses that you mentioned should qualify for immediate NOL treatment. But if you had any costs related to actually starting the business (like legal fees to set up your LLC, initial market research, etc.), those might fall under the startup cost rules and need different treatment. I'd recommend keeping track of which category each expense falls into - it'll make carrying forward much smoother and help if you ever get questioned about it. The NOL carryforward has been a lifesaver for offsetting my profits this year!
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Jenna Sloan
•This is really helpful! I'm in a similar situation with my small consulting business and had no idea there was a difference between startup costs and regular operating expenses for NOL purposes. Could you clarify what exactly counts as "startup costs" that need to be amortized? I spent money on things like business cards, initial website development, and some networking events before I officially launched - would those fall under the 15-year amortization rule or can they be treated as immediate business expenses?
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