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Can a sole proprietor carry forward business losses to next year's taxes?

So I've been running my small business as a sole proprietorship for about 3 years now, and unfortunately this year I'm probably gonna end up with a loss of around $11,500 after all expenses. I've been trying to research if there's anything I can do with this loss for tax purposes, and I came across something about "carrying forward" losses to the next tax year? I'm honestly not sure what this means or if it even applies to my situation. Does anyone know if sole proprietors can actually carry forward losses to reduce taxes in future years? My CPA and I have discussed some of my business losses in the past but he's never brought this up as an option. I'm wondering if this is something I should be asking him about specifically or if it doesn't apply to sole proprietorships at all?

Yes, as a sole proprietor you absolutely can carry forward losses! This is actually one of the benefits of having a business. When your business expenses exceed your income (creating a net loss), that loss can offset other income on your tax return for that year. If the loss is more than your other income, you can carry it forward to future tax years. The technical term is Net Operating Loss (NOL). Current tax rules generally allow you to carry forward NOLs indefinitely until they're used up, though there are some limitations on how much you can use each year (generally limited to 80% of your taxable income in any given year). Definitely bring this up with your CPA because proper documentation and reporting of these losses can save you significant money in future tax years when your business becomes profitable.

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Wait so if my business lost like $5k last year but I didn't know about this, can I still claim that now somehow? Or is it too late since I already filed last year's taxes?

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You could potentially still claim the loss from last year by filing an amended return (Form 1040-X). Generally, you have up to three years from the date you filed your original return to amend it, so you should still be within that window for last year. When you amend your return, you'd include a corrected Schedule C showing the business loss and recalculate your tax liability. The loss might offset other income you had that year, potentially resulting in a refund. I'd recommend consulting with your tax professional to help with this since amended returns can be a bit tricky.

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How does this actually work? Is it like TurboTax or something? I'm always skeptical of online tax tools because my situation seems more complicated than what they can handle.

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I'm curious - did your CPA miss this completely or just not explain it well? I wonder if I should get a second opinion on my taxes now. My side hustle lost money last year but my tax guy never mentioned anything about carrying losses forward.

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Something nobody's mentioned yet - make sure you're actually running a legitimate business and not what the IRS considers a hobby. If the IRS determines your business is a hobby, you can't deduct losses against other income or carry them forward. They look at stuff like: Do you keep proper business records? Are you operating in a businesslike manner? Have you made a profit in at least 3 of the last 5 years? Do you depend on the income? Etc. My brother had his woodworking "business" reclassified as a hobby during an audit and it was a MESS. Just something to keep in mind before counting on those carried-forward losses.

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This is actually a really good point I hadn't considered. I'm definitely running a legitimate business (web design services) and I've been profitable the previous two years. This is the first year I've had a loss because I invested in a lot of new equipment and took some courses to expand my services. I'm keeping detailed records of everything though, so hopefully that helps show this is a real business and not a hobby.

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You're in a good position then. Having two profitable years followed by a year with losses due to business investment is completely reasonable and shouldn't raise any red flags. Just make sure to document the business purpose of those investments and courses. It's mostly people who have year after year of losses while having another primary income source who run into the hobby loss issues. Keep good records of your marketing efforts, business plans, and client communications too - those all help demonstrate business intent if questions ever come up.

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One thing to remember with NOLs (Net Operating Losses) for sole props - they're reported on your regular 1040 using Schedule C, then flow to your 1040. The losses automatically offset your other income for the current year first. It's only the EXCESS losses that get carried forward. So if your business lost $20k but you had $30k in W-2 income, you'd use the entire $20k loss this year and have nothing to carry forward. But if your business lost $40k and you only had $30k in other income, you'd use $30k this year and carry forward the remaining $10k.

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Do you know if there's a specific form for carrying forward the losses to the next year? I'm trying to DIY my taxes this year with software but not sure if it will catch this automatically.

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Most tax software will handle this automatically if you enter your business loss correctly on Schedule C. The software calculates your Adjusted Gross Income and applies the business loss against your other income. If there's an excess loss that creates a Net Operating Loss, it should prompt you or automatically generate Form 1045 (Application for Tentative Refund) or help you carry it forward to next year's return. However, I'd double-check that your software is handling NOL carryforwards properly - not all basic tax software packages include this feature. You might want to look for the NOL worksheet or carryforward section in your software to make sure it's tracking correctly.

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This is such valuable information! I had no idea about NOL carryforwards until reading this thread. I run a small consulting business and had a $7,800 loss last year that I thought was just... gone. My tax preparer never mentioned anything about carrying it forward. Reading about everyone's experiences here, I'm realizing I should probably be more proactive about understanding my tax options. It sounds like there are several tools and services mentioned that could help me figure out if I'm missing opportunities like this. For anyone else in a similar boat - it seems like the key takeaways are: 1) Keep detailed business records to prove it's a legitimate business, not a hobby, 2) NOLs can be carried forward indefinitely (with some limitations), and 3) You might need to be proactive with your tax professional or seek additional resources to make sure you're not leaving money on the table. Thanks to everyone who shared their experiences - this thread has been incredibly helpful!

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Absolutely agree with your takeaways! I'm in a similar situation with my freelance graphic design work - had about a $4,200 loss last year and my tax guy basically just shrugged and said "well, that offsets some of your other income." Never mentioned carryforwards or anything. It's crazy how much we have to advocate for ourselves when it comes to taxes. I'm definitely going to bring this up when I meet with him next month. The fact that so many people in this thread have had similar experiences with their tax preparers not being proactive about NOLs makes me wonder what other opportunities I might be missing. Thanks for summarizing everything so clearly - I'm bookmarking this thread for reference!

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This thread has been incredibly eye-opening! I've been running my small photography business for about 2 years and had losses both years (around $3,400 last year and $5,200 this year). My tax preparer just treated them as hobby losses and said I could only deduct up to my business income, which was basically nothing. After reading everyone's experiences here, I'm realizing I might have legitimate business losses that could be carried forward. I keep detailed records, have business insurance, maintain a separate business bank account, and actively market my services - so I think I can demonstrate this is a real business, not just a hobby. I'm definitely going to have a serious conversation with my tax preparer about amending my returns and properly documenting these losses for carryforward. It sounds like I might be able to recover some significant money from previous years and set myself up better for when the business becomes profitable. Has anyone dealt specifically with photography businesses and the hobby vs. business determination? I'm wondering if there are any industry-specific things I should be documenting to prove business intent.

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For photography businesses, the IRS looks at several specific factors to distinguish between hobby and business activity. Since you have business insurance, separate bank accounts, and active marketing - those are great indicators of business intent! Some photography-specific documentation that can help: keep records of your pricing research and how you set your rates, save all your marketing materials and client communications, document any photography education or workshops you attend to improve your skills, and maintain a business plan showing how you intend to become profitable. The fact that you're actively marketing and have proper business infrastructure suggests you're operating as a legitimate business. Many photographers have initial losses due to equipment costs and building a client base - this is pretty normal for creative businesses. Just make sure you can show progression toward profitability and that you're treating it seriously as a business venture, not just a creative outlet.

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I've been following this discussion and wanted to share my experience with carrying forward losses from my consulting business. Last year I had a $12,400 loss due to some major software purchases and certification courses, and I was initially told by my tax preparer that I could only use it to offset other income that year. After doing some research (and finding threads like this one), I discovered that the remaining $8,600 could be carried forward as a Net Operating Loss. What really helped me was creating a detailed business plan that showed my investment strategy and projected profitability timeline - this documentation was crucial when I amended my return. One thing I learned is that it's important to track not just the dollar amounts, but also the business rationale behind your expenses. The IRS wants to see that your losses are part of a legitimate business strategy, not just random spending. I now keep a business journal documenting major purchases and how they relate to growing my revenue. For anyone considering amending previous returns to claim NOL carryforwards - it's definitely worth it if you have the documentation. I ended up getting back about $2,100 from my amended return, and now I have the remaining loss amount properly set up to reduce taxes in future profitable years.

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This is really helpful information about documenting the business rationale behind expenses! I'm curious - when you created your business plan showing investment strategy and profitability timeline, did you do this after the fact when amending your return, or is this something you had documented beforehand? I'm wondering if it's too late to create this kind of documentation for losses I had in previous years, or if I can still put together a retroactive business plan that shows my strategic thinking at the time I made those investments.

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